Obama Making New Friends Daily

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If Obama keeps pulling stuff like this, the US will be less popular abroad than we were under Bush. Maybe he can turn all of our best allies into our enemies.
If you guys thought the Bush Administration was arrogant, what do you call this? Nice move by the Obama Administration:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-1704147.html

Come on Rupe...an isolated incident does not come close to being Bush-esque. George is still sleeping well at night know his title as arrogant-in-chief is safe.

[geeker2]

I hope they find a good Bed & Breakfast for these guys - god knows they deserve it......

[ArlJim78]

its appalling how Obama time and again goes out of his way to slap Great Britain in the face. nothing remotely close happened under Bush. his handling of Gitmo is a textbook case of ineptitude and naivete.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

its appalling how Obama time and again goes out of his way to slap Great Britain in the face. nothing remotely close happened under Bush. his handling of Gitmo is a textbook case of ineptitude and naivete.

Jim...although we don't agree on much politically, miss your postings here. You were the first to welcome me to DT several years ago and I usually enjoy what you have to say

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Come on Rupe...an isolated incident does not come close to being Bush-esque. George is still sleeping well at night know his title as arrogant-in-chief is safe.

Bob, This isn't an isolated issue. This Administration is doing things in other areas that the Bush Administration would have never had the nerve to do. Here is a perfect example:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cube_position1

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Bob, This isn't an isolated issue. This Administration is doing things in other areas that the Bush Administration would have never had the nerve to do. Here is a perfect example:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cube_position1

I remember seeing that earlier here...it is hard to justify. But to your original point, I still feel that Obama World politics are light years more inclusionary than Bushes ever were. You may not agree on who is being included, but that is a different conversation.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I remember seeing that earlier here...it is hard to justify. But to your original point, I still feel that Obama World politics are light years more inclusionary than Bushes ever were. You may not agree on who is being included, but that is a different conversation.

I agree with you that the Obama World politics are more inclusionary than Bush. But I don't know whether this strategy will pay off or not. I think it is good in the sense that Obama may be able to rehabilitate the US' reputation with the masses in some other countries. That is a good thing. But I am skeptical as to whether the strategy will pay any true dividends in terms of us getting more of what we want from some of these governments that we are reaching out to.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I agree with you that the Obama World politics are more inclusionary than Bush. But I don't know whether this strategy will pay off or not. I think it is good in the sense that Obama may be able to rehabilitate the US' reputation with the masses in some other countries. That is a good thing. But I am skeptical as to whether the strategy will pay any true dividends in terms of us getting more of what we want from some of these governments that we are reaching out to.

and also, surely we can reach out to some of these countries while not pissing off our traditional allies? so, now instead of just china being mad at us over those guys, england is as well. as my son would say, well that's just fantastic.
i just think it's going to take more than a couple of pretty speeches to fix what's been broken for years. it may actually not even be fixable past a certain point. thing is, even if we try to reach common ground, we still need to make sure we're reaching out to something that doesn't reach out and bite us back for our efforts.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and also, surely we can reach out to some of these countries while not pissing off our traditional allies? so, now instead of just china being mad at us over those guys, england is as well. as my son would say, well that's just fantastic.
i just think it's going to take more than a couple of pretty speeches to fix what's been broken for years. it may actually not even be fixable past a certain point. thing is, even if we try to reach common ground, we still need to make sure we're reaching out to something that doesn't reach out and bite us back for our efforts.

Yes, exactly. I agree with you 100%.