nyra / gate crew

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I swear I read this same thread already

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...nyra+gate+crew

or

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...nyra+gate+crew

or

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...nyra+gate+crew

or

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...nyra+gate+crew

or

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...nyra+gate+crew

[the_fat_man]

I'm going to try to make this point for the last time.

There are things we can control in the game, and others that we can't. The latter far outnumber the former. That's why the game is so difficult to beat. You just can't cover yourself when (seemingly) low probability events occur. However, to focus on the things that are beyond our control is to lose focus on what's important. When focus is shifted to what we can control, our decisions/opinions, and when we **** up we have no one to blame but ourselves, it quickly becomes apparent that we underestimated how difficult the game really is. And, when we also realize that the game itself is actually fair, the naivete of our initial perspective becomes apparent.

Repeat after me:

1) you can pick the 'right' horse and lose
2) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and win
3) you can pick the 'right' horse and win
4) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and lose

to only expect 3 and 4 to happen is to really miss the point

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm going to try to make this point for the last time.

There are things we can control in the game, and others that we can't. The latter far outnumber the former. That's why the game is so difficult to beat. You just can't cover yourself when (seemingly) low probability events occur. However, to focus on the things that are beyond our control is to lose focus on what's important. When focus is shifted to what we can control, our decisions/opinions, and when we **** up we have no one to blame but ourselves, it quickly becomes apparent that we underestimated how difficult the game really is. And, when we also realize that the game itself is actually fair, the naivete of our initial perspective becomes apparent.

Repeat after me:

1) you can pick the 'right' horse and lose
2) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and win
3) you can pick the 'right' horse and win
4) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and lose

to only expect 3 and 4 to happen is to really miss the point

And this is why The Fat Man rises to the top.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm going to try to make this point for the last time.

There are things we can control in the game, and others that we can't. The latter far outnumber the former. That's why the game is so difficult to beat. You just can't cover yourself when (seemingly) low probability events occur. However, to focus on the things that are beyond our control is to lose focus on what's important. When focus is shifted to what we can control, our decisions/opinions, and when we **** up we have no one to blame but ourselves, it quickly becomes apparent that we underestimated how difficult the game really is. And, when we also realize that the game itself is actually fair, the naivete of our initial perspective becomes apparent.

Repeat after me:

1) you can pick the 'right' horse and lose
2) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and win
3) you can pick the 'right' horse and win
4) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and lose

to only expect 3 and 4 to happen is to really miss the point

Im the best at #4.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm going to try to make this point for the last time.

There are things we can control in the game, and others that we can't. The latter far outnumber the former. That's why the game is so difficult to beat. You just can't cover yourself when (seemingly) low probability events occur. However, to focus on the things that are beyond our control is to lose focus on what's important. When focus is shifted to what we can control, our decisions/opinions, and when we **** up we have no one to blame but ourselves, it quickly becomes apparent that we underestimated how difficult the game really is. And, when we also realize that the game itself is actually fair, the naivete of our initial perspective becomes apparent.

Repeat after me:

1) you can pick the 'right' horse and lose
2) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and win
3) you can pick the 'right' horse and win
4) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and lose

to only expect 3 and 4 to happen is to really miss the point

I'm with you Fat Man. I think that's why I love this website so much: there actually is LOGIC around here!

I wish some of that could permeate the rest of our society.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm going to try to make this point for the last time.

There are things we can control in the game, and others that we can't. The latter far outnumber the former. That's why the game is so difficult to beat. You just can't cover yourself when (seemingly) low probability events occur. However, to focus on the things that are beyond our control is to lose focus on what's important. When focus is shifted to what we can control, our decisions/opinions, and when we **** up we have no one to blame but ourselves, it quickly becomes apparent that we underestimated how difficult the game really is. And, when we also realize that the game itself is actually fair, the naivete of our initial perspective becomes apparent.

Repeat after me:

1) you can pick the 'right' horse and lose
2) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and win
3) you can pick the 'right' horse and win
4) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and lose

to only expect 3 and 4 to happen is to really miss the point

I'm getting misty over here... Seriously. Great appraisal Fats. Great.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm going to try to make this point for the last time.

There are things we can control in the game, and others that we can't. The latter far outnumber the former. That's why the game is so difficult to beat. You just can't cover yourself when (seemingly) low probability events occur. However, to focus on the things that are beyond our control is to lose focus on what's important. When focus is shifted to what we can control, our decisions/opinions, and when we **** up we have no one to blame but ourselves, it quickly becomes apparent that we underestimated how difficult the game really is. And, when we also realize that the game itself is actually fair, the naivete of our initial perspective becomes apparent.

Repeat after me:

1) you can pick the 'right' horse and lose
2) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and win
3) you can pick the 'right' horse and win
4) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and lose

to only expect 3 and 4 to happen is to really miss the point

fat at then end of the day a lot of what you posted is correct , but , as you yourself knows everyone at the end of the day still has to "eat"

[randallscott35]

Let me say something else, you actually have a better argument in weather situations where they move a race to the maintrack late. That is a better argument for a conso than a gate scratch...**** happens.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Let me say something else, you actually have a better argument in weather situations where they move a race to the maintrack late. That is a better argument for a conso than a gate scratch...**** happens.

In NY, if a race is moved from turf to dirt after the first leg of a Pick-6 or Pick-4 has been run, the race becomes an " all " for the purpose of that bet.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

In NY, if a race is moved from turf to dirt after the first leg of a Pick-6 or Pick-4 has been run, the race becomes an " all " for the purpose of that bet.

I could be wrong but that was not always the case. I'm almost sure years ago I was moved in a pick four to the fave....Glad that is now the case.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I could be wrong but that was not always the case. I'm almost sure years ago I was moved in a pick four to the fave....Glad that is now the case.

It was changed sometime in the last three or four years.

[tigerfan]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Repeat after me:

1) you can pick the 'right' horse and lose
2) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and win
3) you can pick the 'right' horse and win
4) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and lose

to only expect 3 and 4 to happen is to really miss the point

As someone relatively new to this game, it appears to me that when situations 2, 3 & 4 occur, it stays in my memory for about 2 seconds. However, when situation 1 occurs, it tends to wear on the mind for awhile. I am quickly learning to just let it go.
I had the 7 horse in both the P4 and a win bet. I let it go soon after the race because I realized that if I was the beneficiary of that situation I would have not thought much about it the next day. So why dwell on it when it pinches you? Down the road it will go the other way.
Just my newbie opinion.

In fact, I remember a line from the first Beyer book I read about a year or so ago. Not an exact quote but something to the extent of....you won't remember your big scores but your bad beats will haunt you forever.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm going to try to make this point for the last time.

There are things we can control in the game, and others that we can't. The latter far outnumber the former. That's why the game is so difficult to beat. You just can't cover yourself when (seemingly) low probability events occur. However, to focus on the things that are beyond our control is to lose focus on what's important. When focus is shifted to what we can control, our decisions/opinions, and when we **** up we have no one to blame but ourselves, it quickly becomes apparent that we underestimated how difficult the game really is. And, when we also realize that the game itself is actually fair, the naivete of our initial perspective becomes apparent.

Repeat after me:

1) you can pick the 'right' horse and lose
2) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and win
3) you can pick the 'right' horse and win
4) you can pick the 'wrong' horse and lose

to only expect 3 and 4 to happen is to really miss the point

Excellent post.