The Dedgradation of the American Dialogue

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The media has painted this picture of all republicans being radicalized and polarizing figures and it simply isnt true. .

Baloney. It was the GOP that allowed that to happen. No, correct that - they ENCOURAGED it to happen.

To get Bush re-elected the last time, the GOP gave increased voice to the 25% of the radial, polarized, ultra-conservative far right portion of the party.

The GOP ginned these polarized radicals up again by choosing Palin and letting her open her mouth. The Palin rallies were scary, racist, filled with lies. Palin herself is responsible, she encouraged it. That's why they chose her.

But it backfired big time, resulting in a good portion of the GOP voting Democratic this time. Until the extremists are dampened back down, the GOP is useless, and nobody will see that "it simply isnt true".

As lifelong GOP (I even loved Rumsfeld), to have extremists like Dell tell me "you're not a Republican" is laughable and ludicrous.

But as long as the GOP decides that is the voice of the party, the party will have no voice.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Baloney. It was the GOP that allowed that to happen. No, correct that - they ENCOURAGED it to happen.

To get Bush re-elected the last time, the GOP gave increased voice to the 25% of the radial, polarized, ultra-conservative far right portion of the party.

The GOP ginned these polarized radicals up again by choosing Palin and letting her open her mouth. The Palin rallies were scary, racist, filled with lies. Palin herself is responsible, she encouraged it. That's why they chose her.

But it backfired big time, resulting in a good portion of the GOP voting Democratic this time. Until the extremists are dampened back down, the GOP is useless, and nobody will see that "it simply isnt true".

As lifelong GOP (I even loved Rumsfeld), to have extremists like Dell tell me "you're not a Republican" is laughable and ludicrous.

But as long as the GOP decides that is the voice of the party, the party will have no voice.

This is ridiculous. If the GOP was playing to the radicals why was John McCain the nominee? You take the liberal bait, hook, line and sinker.

And you are just as intolerant as the right by calling Palin's rallies racist and filled with lies.

And you hardly seem to have a single non liberal view so maybe mr Extreme is right?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is ridiculous. If the GOP was playing to the radicals why was John McCain the nominee? You take the liberal bait, hook, line and sinker.

And you are just as intolerant as the right by calling Palin's rallies racist and filled with lies.

And you hardly seem to have a single non liberal view so maybe mr Extreme is right?

Because John McCain moved drastically to the right in order to be appealing to the radicals. Remember the whole 2000 John McCain calling Jerry Falwell an agent of intolerance and then 2006 John McCain doing the commencement speech at his good buddy Jerry Falwell's Liberty University?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Because John McCain moved drastically to the right in order to be appealing to the radicals. Remember the whole 2000 John McCain calling Jerry Falwell an agent of intolerance and then 2006 John McCain doing the commencement speech at his good buddy Jerry Falwell's Liberty University?

He hardly moved drastically to the right. He was the GOP nominee for President, was he supposed to insult Falwell again?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He hardly moved drastically to the right. He was the GOP nominee for President, was he supposed to insult Falwell again?

Falwell makes Wright look like Ghandi

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/if_y..._a/184293.html

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Falwell makes Wright look like Ghandi

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/if_y..._a/184293.html

The problem with the left is that they constantly harp on non politicians as radicals. The issue I have is that the main radicals on the left are actually in office.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Falwell makes Wright look like Ghandi

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/if_y..._a/184293.html

All Christians and Americans should be embarrassed by him. extremely embarrassed.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

All Christians and Americans should be embarrassed by him. extremely embarrassed.

Why? Does he speak for you? I am much more embarrassed by Al Gore as an American.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is ridiculous. If the GOP was playing to the radicals why was John McCain the nominee? You take the liberal bait, hook, line and sinker.

And you are just as intolerant as the right by calling Palin's rallies racist and filled with lies.

And you hardly seem to have a single non liberal view so maybe mr Extreme is right?

LOL - I am "the right", Chuck. I've been "the right" for a few decades now. The GOP has plenty of my money and several decades of my straight-ticket GOP votes in Illinois.

I'm part of the 75% of "the right" that isn't clinging to the fantasy that Obama is a Muslim terrorist and not an American Citizen and Hurry Buy Ammo Even Though There's A Shortage Because He's Taking Our Guns Away Forever.

Yes indeed, I am completely intolerant of the violent, extreme, ultra-conservative far right, or the equally radical, violent far left. Guess what? I tolerate the left, the middle, the consensus.

First, McCain was the nominee to appeal to a broad spectrum of the general public, Palin was chosen to ensure the 25% part of the GOP that thought McCain was "a liberal" (vbg) would be happy and come out and vote, rather than stay home as they repeatedly threatened during the year prior to the GOP Convention. It was the GOP's only chance.

Secondly, have you watched what Palin has said at her rallies? Have you SEEN the videos of what people intervewed at her rallies said regarding racism, and the lies they relayed? Have you seen the posters they held up? What do you think when Palin laughed and applauded and pointed and approved when she talked about Obama and people held up monkeys? That was clearly racist. Yes, it's scary.

If you insist upon describing anybody that doesn't agree completely with you and Dell is "a liberal", well, I can't influence that.

And do, outline "my liberal political views", as you know them so well. Where do I stand on government/universal healthcare? On the bailout? On taxation? On immigration?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - I am "the right", Chuck. I've been "the right" for a few decades now. The GOP has plenty of my money and several decades of my straight-ticket GOP votes in Illinois.

I'm part of the 75% of "the right" that isn't clinging to the fantasy that Obama is a Muslim terrorist and not an American Citizen and Hurry Buy Ammo Even Though There's A Shortage Because He's Taking Our Guns Away Forever.

Yes indeed, I am completely intolerant of the violent, extreme, ultra-conservative far right, or the equally radical, violent far left. Guess what? I tolerate the left, the middle, the consensus.

First, McCain was the nominee to appeal to a broad spectrum of the general public, Palin was chosen to ensure the 25% part of the GOP that thought McCain was "a liberal" (vbg) would be happy and come out and vote, rather than stay home as they repeatedly threatened during the year prior to the GOP Convention. It was the GOP's only chance.

Secondly, have you watched what Palin has said at her rallies? Have you SEEN the videos of what people intervewed at her rallies said regarding racism, and the lies they relayed? Have you seen the posters they held up? What do you think when Palin laughed and applauded and pointed and approved when she talked about Obama and people held up monkeys? That was clearly racist. Yes, it's scary.

If you insist upon describing anybody that doesn't agree completely with you and Dell is "a liberal", well, I can't influence that.

And do, outline "my liberal political views", as you know them so well. Where do I stand on government/universal healthcare? On the bailout? On taxation? On immigration?

Either you're "all in" or you're a....gasp...Liberal

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Either you're "all in" or you're a....gasp...Liberal

I'm sure that could be cured by waterboarding.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Either you're "all in" or you're a....gasp...Liberal

When 95% of your posts are centered around what a great guy Obama is and what a great job he is doing and what a great orator he is then it is hard to believe that you aren't a liberal. Surely the single most liberal member of Congress who since elected has taken Socialistic views on many issues wouldnt be the type of person a conservative would care for would it??

hell only a liberal could read that article and not see it for what it is...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Either you're "all in" or you're a....gasp...Liberal

that's what i've heard.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - I am "the right", Chuck. I've been "the right" for a few decades now. The GOP has plenty of my money and several decades of my straight-ticket GOP votes in Illinois.

I'm part of the 75% of "the right" that isn't clinging to the fantasy that Obama is a Muslim terrorist and not an American Citizen and Hurry Buy Ammo Even Though There's A Shortage Because He's Taking Our Guns Away Forever.

Yes indeed, I am completely intolerant of the violent, extreme, ultra-conservative far right, or the equally radical, violent far left. Guess what? I tolerate the left, the middle, the consensus.

First, McCain was the nominee to appeal to a broad spectrum of the general public, Palin was chosen to ensure the 25% part of the GOP that thought McCain was "a liberal" (vbg) would be happy and come out and vote, rather than stay home as they repeatedly threatened during the year prior to the GOP Convention. It was the GOP's only chance.

Secondly, have you watched what Palin has said at her rallies? Have you SEEN the videos of what people intervewed at her rallies said regarding racism, and the lies they relayed? Have you seen the posters they held up? What do you think when Palin laughed and applauded and pointed and approved when she talked about Obama and people held up monkeys? That was clearly racist. Yes, it's scary.

If you insist upon describing anybody that doesn't agree completely with you and Dell is "a liberal", well, I can't influence that.

And do, outline "my liberal political views", as you know them so well. Where do I stand on government/universal healthcare? On the bailout? On taxation? On immigration?

Since you seem to adore Obama so much it is hard to believe that you could be a Republican especially since he has done virtually nothing that the party as a whole believes in and is moving the entire countrys system of govt and private industry towards the left. And since Obama won 53% of the poplar vote i would say that your numbers are skewed concerning the GOPs' %'s.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Since you seem to adore Obama so much it is hard to believe that you could be a Republican especially since he has done virtually nothing that the party as a whole believes in and is moving the entire countrys system of govt and private industry towards the left. And since Obama won 53% of the poplar vote i would say that your numbers are skewed concerning the GOPs' %'s.

Yes, acknowledging that Obama is an intelligent man, an excellent speaker and worldly is proof I "adore" him. Okay!

Please, post your own numbers (you can find) concerning the Dems, the GOP and their makeup pre- and post- election.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, acknowledging that Obama is an intelligent man, an excellent speaker and worldly is proof I "adore" him. Okay!

Please, post your own numbers (you can find) concerning the Dems, the GOP and their makeup pre- and post- election.

He won 53 % of the vote. Assuming that the country is close to evenly divided number wise between the GOP and the Democrats, you can figure out the rest.

An intellegent man, and excellent speaker and worldly describes Brockguy but you dont see anyone fawning over him.

[Riot]

He won 53 % of the vote. Assuming that the country is close to evenly divided number wise between the GOP and the Democrats, you can figure out the rest.

I'm not talking specifically about the election result percentages - I'm talking about the pre- and ongoing post-election surveys of what people call themselves - a GOP, Dem, independent, and what percentage of each party is made up of people who call themselves "very conservative", "moderate", etc. type of thing.

An intellegent man, and excellent speaker and worldly describes Brockguy but you dont see anyone fawning over him.

Hey, if he wants fawning, we can give him fawning

Obama appears on Colbert Report in Iraq Monday night, makes fun of his own big ears, and as Commander in Chief orders General Odierno to shave Colbert's head right then and there. Pretty funny .... http://www.comedycentral.com/colbert...isodeId=229761

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Since you seem to adore Obama so much it is hard to believe that you could be a Republican especially since he has done virtually nothing that the party as a whole believes in and is moving the entire countrys system of govt and private industry towards the left. .

LOL...replace the name obama with bush and the same would be true for you.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL...replace the name obama with bush and the same would be true for you.

Yes but I dont pretend to be a liberal yet talk the conservative talk.

[dalakhani]

[quote=Cannon Shell]Yes but I dont pretend to be a liberal yet talk the conservative talk.[/QUOT

Bush pretended to be conservative and did everything you said about Obama yet you still supported to Bush.

What is the difference between someone being republican and supporting either one of them in regards to how in line they are/were with traditional republican views?

Bush was the king of big government...and was in most cases the antithesis of the classic conservative but yet you still supported him.

Why can't RIOT support Obama?