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Old 06-08-2009, 06:12 PM
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The indisputable fact that between 100-200 mare owners plan their matings without regard to Unbridled Song's history of brittle offspring has nothing to do with pointing out that it should not surprise anyone that soundness in a sire has an impact on his offspring. I suspect that you could find this notion in a Genetics 101 textbook.
How dare I point that out! Glad you took it upon yourself to correct me with a rude insult, while reiterating the concept yourself (which is okay, right Darwin?
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:20 PM
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That track was rock hard and though it looked like it was harrowed, it was only open about 1.5 inches, according to someone who walked on it.
Others will come out of Saturday's card injured, but if they are less than stakes status we probably won't know about it.
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:14 PM
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That track was rock hard and though it looked like it was harrowed, it was only open about 1.5 inches, according to someone who walked on it.
Others will come out of Saturday's card injured, but if they are less than stakes status we probably won't know about it.
Thank you for pointing this out . Belmont has a history of a surface that is too hard . Will they ever learn ?
The 4x5 Raise A Native is never a cross for soundness . That and the hard surface was a recipe for disaster . Hope the other runners on the card are ok .

Edit: Pedigreequery informs that his dam, millionairess Secret Status, has produced 5 foals that have started a total of 13 times . Including the unraced 2004 son of Storm Cat, Objectivity, that sold for $6.3 mil.
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:25 PM
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:47 PM
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Thank you for pointing this out . Belmont has a history of a surface that is too hard . Will they ever learn ?
The 4x5 Raise A Native is never a cross for soundness . That and the hard surface was a recipe for disaster . Hope the other runners on the card are ok .
I think that statement is way too broad.I could probably look in the form tomorrow and find 10 horses on any given card who are bred 3-5x3-5 to Raise A Native. I could never prove how sound any of them are but my point is that breeding is so common I'm sure there have to be some who are sound.It is no different than judging a horses distance ability based only on breeding and ignoring his on track performance.

Too bad about Dunkirk.I know it's easy to say these things happen but it does.At least it didn't occur on the track in front of everyone watching.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:21 AM
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Thank you for pointing this out . Belmont has a history of a surface that is too hard . Will they ever learn ?
You realize they run races outdoors, right?. There was nearly 2 inches of rain that fell in the prior 30 hours to Friday midnight. The crew had already been working for 12 hours when the races started at 11:30 Saturday. They did an unbelievable job getting that track into good and then fast shape. Please try to not let your ridiculous surface agenda spew spill out here. There may be people who actually think there's some credibility to it.
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:23 AM
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You realize they run races outdoors, right?. There was nearly 2 inches of rain that fell in the prior 30 hours to Friday midnight. The crew had already been working for 12 hours when the races started at 11:30 Saturday. They did an unbelievable job getting that track into good and then fast shape. Please try to not let your ridiculous surface agenda spew spill out here. There may be people who actually think there's some credibility to it.
Linny and I agree on the surface conditions . If they can't prepare a softer surface within the environment they should find a surface they can handle . Sounds like you have the surface agenda .
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:29 AM
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Linny and I agree on the surface conditions . If they can't prepare a softer surface within the environment they should find a surface they can handle . Sounds like you have the surface agenda .

nice edit, i saw your original post without the last line...after reading many of your posts, it's apparent who has the agenda. makes me wonder why you're in the game that you seem to despise so much.
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:33 AM
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Linny and I agree on the surface conditions . If they can't prepare a softer surface within the environment they should find a surface they can handle . Sounds like you have the surface agenda .
I laughed..
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I laughed..

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