Belmont Stakes Field

Sightseek · #1 06-03-2009, 12:23 PM

Grade 1, $1 million Belmont Stakes

1
Chocolate Candy
J. Hollendorfer
G. Gomez
10-1

2
Dunkirk
T. Pletcher
J. Velazquez
4-1

3
Mr. Hot Stuff
E. Harty
E. Prado
15-1

4
Summer Bird
T. Ice
K. Desormeaux
12-1

5
Luv Gov
D.W. Lukas
M. Mena
20-1

6
Charitable Man
K. McLaughlin
A. Garcia
3-1

7
Mine That Bird
B. Woolley Jr.
C. Borel
2-1

8
Flying Private
D.W. Lukas
J. Leparoux
12-1

9
Miner's Escape
N. Zito
J. Lezcano
15-1

10
Brave Victory
N. Zito
R. Maragh
15-1

Gander · #2 06-03-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Grade 1, $1 million Belmont Stakes

1
Chocolate Candy
J. Hollendorfer
G. Gomez
10-1

2
Dunkirk
T. Pletcher
J. Velazquez
4-1

3
Mr. Hot Stuff
E. Harty
E. Prado
15-1

4
Summer Bird
T. Ice
K. Desormeaux
12-1

5
Luv Gov
D.W. Lukas
M. Mena
20-1

6
Charitable Man
K. McLaughlin
A. Garcia
3-1

7
Mine That Bird
B. Woolley Jr.
C. Borel
2-1

8
Flying Private
D.W. Lukas
J. Leparoux
12-1

9
Miner's Escape
N. Zito
J. Lezcano
15-1

10
Brave Victory
N. Zito
R. Maragh
15-1

Thanks for posting these. I think the odds are pretty spot on. I do think Charitable Man and Mine that Bird will flip flop and Charitable man will be the post time favorite going off at about 9/5. Hes the talk of the town and the barn will be unloading on him.

gales0678 · #3 06-03-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Thanks for posting these. I think the odds are pretty spot on. I do think Charitable Man and Mine that Bird will flip flop and Charitable man will be the post time favorite going off at about 9/5. Hes the talk of the town and the barn will be unloading on him.

listen your up in saratoga , i'm down here in mid-town , he may be the talk of the barn , but ,MTB is the talk of the town

NTamm1215 · #4 06-03-2009, 12:54 PM

I don't think there's any chance that any horse other than MTB is the favorite in this race. In fact, I think Eric Donovan's morning line of 2-1 is high.

NT

Antitrust32 · #5 06-03-2009, 01:04 PM

I'm completely tossing Charitable Man... so I guess I hope he gets over bet.

Not going to do much with the race, thinking of a 3 horse $1 exacta and trifecta bet... Dunkirk, MTB & Flying Private (I know I may be crazy for this but I thought the horse showed some promise at Pimlico, should be able to get the distance and may be a price - could run third or maybe catch 2nd)

Also may put $20 on Dunkirk to win.

Thats about it.

hockey2315 · #6 06-03-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Thanks for posting these. I think the odds are pretty spot on. I do think Charitable Man and Mine that Bird will flip flop and Charitable man will be the post time favorite going off at about 9/5. Hes the talk of the town and the barn will be unloading on him.

There's almost no chance that you're right - despite the amount of money the KMc barn usually bets.

the_fat_man · #7 06-03-2009, 01:09 PM

What I miss most about working on the backstretch is the opportunity to unload on those low price, little chance, sure things.

Antitrust32 · #8 06-03-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

What I miss most about working on the backstretch is the opportunity to unload on those low price, little chance, sure things.

who do you like for the race fat man?

you think its good that I'm tossing Charity man, right?

slotdirt · #9 06-03-2009, 01:09 PM

I would be absolutely and completely shocked if Dunkirk won this race.

NTamm1215 · #10 06-03-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I would be absolutely and completely shocked if Dunkirk won this race.

Not as shocked as I'd be if Summer Bird wins.

NT

CSC · #11 06-03-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Not as shocked as I'd be if Summer Bird wins.

NT

I liked it more when we used to disagree on almost everything...

miraja2 · #12 06-03-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Not as shocked as I'd be if Summer Bird wins.

NT

I would think that Summer Bird might be a good horse to use underneath in exotics, except for the fact that his jock just might pull him up 3/4 of the way through the race if it doesn't look like he'll win.....so as not to humilate him.....or something.

NTamm1215 · #13 06-03-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

I would think that Summer Bird might be a good horse to use underneath in exotics, except for the fact that his jock just might pull him up 3/4 of the way through the race if it doesn't look like he'll win.....so as not to humilate him.....or something.

Or move him from 10th to 3rd down the backstretch to "get him in position."

KD has pulled that move twice in recent Grade I events. Ask Mr. Sidney and Hold Me Back how well it worked.

NT

NTamm1215 · #14 06-06-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Not as shocked as I'd be if Summer Bird wins.

NT

Ugh.

I'll take crow parmigiana...congrats to CSC, Slotdirt, and all of the Summer Bird backers.

NT

the_fat_man · #15 06-06-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Ugh.

I'll take crow parmigiana...congrats to CSC, Slotdirt, and all of the Summer Bird backers.

NT

What's even worse, that WACKO right winger, who probably thinks we're still not in a recession, Mr PA himself, picked this crow.

So, Nick, after hearing for the past two weeks how a last move closer can't win the BEL and how the blinkers on SB were going to allow him to be with the pace (or maybe steal it), he wins with a last move. How about that?

Borel would've been better served to not have taken the week off and to have spent it training with the Fatman over at Kissena velodrome. I'd work those move too soon tendencies out of him. Watching a little tape with the redneck might've helped as well.

Gander · #16 06-03-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

There's almost no chance that you're right - despite the amount of money the KMc barn usually bets.

You will be surprised at the amount of money Charitable man takes, and maybe I wont be right... but I will guarntee Charitable man will open as the favorite. The barn money will come early and in droves. I think he will off favored just like he did in the Peter Pan, a race where he figured to be 3rd choice behind IC And HB.

I dont really like his chances, despite the barn's confidence. I think he gets gunned down!

hockey2315 · #17 06-03-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

You will be surprised at the amount of money Charitable man takes, and maybe I wont be right... but I will guarntee Charitable man will open as the favorite. The barn money will come early and in droves. I think he will off favored just like he did in the Peter Pan, a race where he figured to be 3rd choice behind IC And HB.

I dont really like his chances, despite the barn's confidence. I think he gets gunned down!

You realize that they won't just be taking bets in NY, right?

Gander · #18 06-03-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

You realize that they won't just be taking bets in NY, right?

Yes, somebody told me that they arent restricting betting to just NY this year.

I dont think Mine that Bird has everybody convinced and many people hate taking 8/5 on a horse that they could have had for 55/1 five weeks ago.

hockey2315 · #19 06-03-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Yes, somebody told me that they arent restricting betting to just NY this year.

I dont think Mine that Bird has everybody convinced and many people hate taking 8/5 on a horse that they could have had for 55/1 five weeks ago.

He was 6-1 in the Preakness vs. a much tougher field and ran 2nd. . . I'm not crazy about him at such a low price, but he's definitely a deserving favorite and the most likely winner.