Rachel ran a good race, but...

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I agree he ran well at Pimlico, but that was a different Street Sense we saw at Saratoga, compared to Churchill. He was life and death to get by Grasshopper.

Life and Death? Id call it a well rated half length

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs-hL...e=channel_page

The pace was different than the Derby, it was much slower and he had to be closer. He was probably a better animal when allowed to lope along early and make one run. But I counted Borel hitting him at least 14 times. I wouldn't call that well rated.

If you look at my avatar he had the lead from that point on and never relinquished

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by kgar311

If you look at my avatar he had the lead from that point on and never relinquished

And to be fair, except for the BC Juvy where he ran on the conveyor belt, he never crushed anybody. His problem was getting to the lead and relaxing, which people blamed his Preakness loss on. He tried to do the same thing in the Travers, which is why Borel had to get after him IMO.

[blackthroatedwind]

Street Sense was all out to beat Grasshopper in the Travers. It's not even a discussion.

Having said that, the Grasshopper that ran at Saratoga in 2007 was exceptionally good, and Street Sense ran very well to beat him that day.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Having said that, the Grasshopper that ran at Saratoga in 2007 was exceptionally good, and Street Sense ran very well to beat him that day.

Considering Grasshopper's surrounding form to those two Saratoga starts ... I guess he just loved the dirt there more than the dirt at other places.

He was 3rd at Churchill in an allowance to Roman's Run and Morada Key with an 89 Beyer in his start prior to Saratoga. And was beaten a length by Going Ballistic at 1/5 odds with a 92 Beyer in his start after Saratoga.

Grasshopper won that Saratoga allowance race by 6 in his start prior to the Travers .. the 2nd place finisher Smokeyjonessutton was defeated in his next 13 starts and mercifully retired. 3rd place finisher Mister Triester ran Beyers of 20 points more or less in each of his next 3 starts after the Grasshopper allowance race.

If Street Sense's Travers was bad ... how about his Jim Dandy where Cowtown Cat finished 4th beaten just 3.5 lengths.

I have to keep my place cemented as the resident Street Sense hater and all.