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Old 05-17-2009, 08:54 AM
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Having a Triple Crown winner will not save horse racing.

Having a Triple Crown on the line does more for horse racing than most other events in the game throughout the year. Last year is a good example... Big Brown's Belmont versus Curlin almost all year.

And the thought that a TC winner will dumb-down the following years Triple Crown because "it won't likely happen again" is ridiculous.

i've read it-maybe plonk wrote it...
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:08 AM
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I think I understand the point he was tring to get across. Maybe he's right with most of the steam being taken out of the TC and Belmonts Stakes sails. But yesterday's race was so exciting that maybe some of the people that only watch the TC will be intrigued enough to watch Rachel Alexandra whenever and wherever she runs next.
Maybe it wasn't the best result for the near term (meaning next 3 weeks), but in the long run that race/performance could do nothing but help the game.
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Old 05-17-2009, 12:53 PM
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-tv-ratings-up
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Old 05-17-2009, 12:59 PM
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and read this, in a drf article:

Handle on the day was $86,684,470, up from $73.5 million last year. Attendance dropped from 112,222 last year to an announced crowd of 77,850. The infield, always packed with college-age revelers who have just gotten out of school, was sparse, owing to a new policy instituted by Pimlico officials this year that banned patrons from bringing beer into the infield. Not only did infield fans have to buy beer from the concession stands, but the admission price was raised, too, to $60.
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:34 PM
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Will you kindly stop making so many posts in a row?
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Old 05-17-2009, 04:24 PM
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:09 AM
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If RA's not in the Preakness who's to say the pace winds up as fast as it did?

It likely winds up much slower and a lot of the stalker and mid-pack types are less likely to get baked.

Big Drama would have run a ton better without her in there .. and FF, POTN, GQ, and Take The Points all wouldn't have got totally baked as bad as they did .. and Musket Man would have probably had the edge and won .. he also got the setup .. but not as kind as MTB got it.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:17 AM
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thing is, the 'need' for a tc winner to save the sport is a falsehood. now, had MTB managed to win it all, he may have helped a bit-but most years, you have a colt who would win-how would having a horse win the tc and get whisked off to stud help the sport at all? it wouldn't. the press needs to quit baking this up as some kind of last ditch effort to save the sport each year. the sport isn't on life support. if, every year, the sport is dying-it makes me wonder how we've survived since affirmed won the belmont. it's certainly the longest death i've ever witnessed. yes, attendance is down. but what about handle? why do we read so much about tracks going down...but you don't see much about tracks like oaklawn, which had a great year this year-and boosted purses? twice.

if you want to grow the sport, take your kids...your family, and your friends. do like i did yesterday, get others to watch, show some excitement. talk it up. hell, i've got folks watching hockey that never did before-and they ask me about horse racing now. i think i'm getting a group together to go to la downs in a couple months.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:18 AM
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If RA's not in the Preakness who's to say the pace winds up as fast as it did?

It likely winds up much slower and a lot of the stalker and mid-pack types are less likely to get baked.

Big Drama would have run a ton better without her in there .. and FF, POTN, GQ, and Take The Points all wouldn't have got totally baked as bad as they did .. and Musket Man would have probably had the edge and won .. he also got the setup .. but not as kind as MTB got it.
very true. people are assuming that had rachel not run, mtb would be the obvious winner. but the whole complexion would have changed. and maybe not to his advantage.

i think musket man should not run past 1 1/8th. he's outrun his pedigree, but i think a bit shorter would give him wins instead of shows.
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Old 05-17-2009, 05:17 PM
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i think musket man should not run past 1 1/8th. he's outrun his pedigree, but i think a bit shorter would give him wins instead of shows.
I agree. He was dog-tired and weaving all down the stretch trying to finish yesterday. He's a good, solid horse that deserves some wins.
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If RA's not in the Preakness who's to say the pace winds up as fast as it did?

It likely winds up much slower and a lot of the stalker and mid-pack types are less likely to get baked.

Big Drama would have run a ton better without her in there .. and FF, POTN, GQ, and Take The Points all wouldn't have got totally baked as bad as they did .. and Musket Man would have probably had the edge and won .. he also got the setup .. but not as kind as MTB got it.
Doug,

Back in the other direction, note that Rachel in the race kept Hull out. So while the pace may not have been as fast without her, it may well have been with Hull...
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