Derby Winner vs. Oaks Winner

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So, of the fillies who have won a Triple Crown race, who was the best?

It may just be Rachel.

I don't think people realize what an incredible race she ran today. That track was DEEP, she set extremely fast fractions while 3 wide and still opened up enough to hold on. She wasn't even looking all that comfortable out there when she went by us, unlike at CD where she was absolutely on cruise control.

Winning Colors and Geniune Risk beat better horses, however.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by philcski

It may just be Rachel.

I don't think people realize what an incredible race she ran today. That track was DEEP, she set extremely fast fractions while 3 wide and still opened up enough to hold on. She wasn't even looking all that comfortable out there when she went by us, unlike at CD where she was absolutely on cruise control.

Winning Colors and Geniune Risk beat better horses, however.

I can remember maybe two horses from that crop(not that my memory or lack therof matters) but I thought that crop was relatively weak and contributed to the decision to run her.Colonel Moran and Rockhill Native maybe? I can't recall another.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

I can remember maybe two horses from that crop(not that my memory or lack therof matters) but I thought that crop was relatively weak and contributed to the decision to run her.Colonel Moran and Rockhill Native maybe? I can't recall another.

plugged nickel was an incredibly bred horse.


regardless of what else rachel does, there isn't a filly out there currently, or in the past, that has accomplished what risk did in her tc run. alydar will live on in our minds forever, and even he didn't accomplish what the firestone filly did. first in the derby, second in the preakness (a race comparable to the 'fighting finish') and belmont. no filly has ever come close to that. will one do that? that remains to be seen. rachel has gotten a lot of buzz-i'm enjoying the hell out of her. but like i said the other day, let's not get ahead of ourselves.....


as for why she ran, risk ran a credible third in the wood memorial, which lead to her owners (but not her trainer initially) to think she could handle the opposite sex in the derby...

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Danzig

plugged nickel was an incredibly bred horse.


regardless of what else rachel does, there isn't a filly out there currently, or in the past, that has accomplished what risk did in her tc run. alydar will live on in our minds forever, and even he didn't accomplish what the firestone filly did. first in the derby, second in the preakness (a race comparable to the 'fighting finish') and belmont. no filly has ever come close to that. will one do that? that remains to be seen. rachel has gotten a lot of buzz-i'm enjoying the hell out of her. but like i said the other day, let's not get ahead of ourselves.....


as for why she ran, risk ran a credible third in the wood memorial, which lead to her owners (but not her trainer initially) to think she could handle the opposite sex in the derby...

I take nothing away from what she did but was responding to a statement declaring that she beat better horses. I'm not sure that can be determined this early in this year's crop but adding Plugged Nickel to the list of '80 grads certainly completes the top of the list for that group.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

I take nothing away from what she did but was responding to a statement declaring that she beat better horses. I'm not sure that can be determined this early in this year's crop but adding Plugged Nickel to the list of '80 grads certainly completes the top of the list for that group.

yeah, true it's too soon to know about this years horses. but the fact that risk won the derby, and then placed in the preakness and belmont puts her in the lead of the tc winning fillies group in my opinion. of course, rachel may not yet be done. for her to come back to the belmont if they so decide, and win that....i'd love to see it. i would love to see that happen. but...if it were me, i'd give her a bit of a break, and then take on the travers.