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Old 05-04-2009, 09:35 PM
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Mine That Bird drastically changed tactics in the derby, and he was a different horse. I'm not saying he is likely to be the next triple crown winner, but I do think it is worth noting that perhaps he was ridden for the first time in his career the way he wants to be ridden. In retrospect, I went back and looked at his last 3 races and I think most would agree he was ridden rather peculiarly. I'm not summarily dismissing him at this point of time.
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Old 05-04-2009, 09:48 PM
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In retrospect, I went back and looked at his last 3 races and I think most would agree he was ridden rather peculiarly.
In the Sunland Derby he was off to a decent start after the first quarter- they went too fast up front and he was off the first group maybe just a tat too forward...
And then Lambert went to **** after that, for some reason he thought they were too far off the pace and pumps through a 2nd quarter that ruins all the setup advantage they had ...
Then he went and capped it off by racing to the far turn rather than the finish line
Textbook horrible ride.
But Still, grade 3 animals
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:04 PM
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In the Sunland Derby he was off to a decent start after the first quarter- they went too fast up front and he was off the first group maybe just a tat too forward...
And then Lambert went to **** after that, for some reason he thought they were too far off the pace and pumps through a 2nd quarter that ruins all the setup advantage they had ...
Then he went and capped it off by racing to the far turn rather than the finish line
Textbook horrible ride.
But Still, grade 3 animals
More importantly he may have only one run, so the Jock has to time his run. Better Talk Now was like this, only when Dominguez got on him that he started to win all those grade 1's. Rarely a Jockey makes this much impact on a horse, but Borel did and it is not solely for the rail ride.
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:06 PM
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Mine That Bird drastically changed tactics in the derby, and he was a different horse. I'm not saying he is likely to be the next triple crown winner, but I do think it is worth noting that perhaps he was ridden for the first time in his career the way he wants to be ridden. In retrospect, I went back and looked at his last 3 races and I think most would agree he was ridden rather peculiarly. I'm not summarily dismissing him at this point of time.
That come-from-the-clouds running style obviously worked to perfection in the Derby ... but it usually doesn't translate into a very high win % over the long run.
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:20 PM
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That come-from-the-clouds running style obviously worked to perfection in the Derby ... but it usually doesn't translate into a very high win % over the long run.
There probably won't be another 19 horse field he lines up in where you know there will be a honest pace, however he has excelled on synthetics and usually that type of track is much fairer to closers. Looking at his past p's from Woodbine he wasn't ridden that far off the pace either so who knows if he even showed his best there.
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