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Old 05-04-2009, 12:14 PM
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I can't completely blame Durkin for missing Mine that Bird on the backstretch instead thinking Mr. Hot Stuff was last of all - did y'all see how far behind the winner was after the first half?
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:19 PM
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I can't completely blame Durkin for missing Mine that Bird on the backstretch instead thinking Mr. Hot Stuff was last of all - did y'all see how far behind the winner was after the first half?
For the record, this isn't the first time he's completely missed a move like that. Pleasant Home's move in the Distaff, up the rail and then 3 wide to in front he missed until she was in front. But I couldn't hear his call from the rail so I was just happy to see the saddlenumber since the idiots at the BC can't allow colors.
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:22 PM
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They should do what del mar and Kenneland does and put transmitters on the horses to determine the positions of the horses.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:26 PM
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I said to Tina right after they crossed the wire. "OMG the way that race unfolded I could really have botched the call badly"
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:28 PM
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I said to Tina right after they crossed the wire. "OMG they way that race unfolded I could really have botched the call badly"
Exactly, vic have you ever called a race with 19 horses.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:36 PM
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Exactly, vic have you ever called a race with 19 horses.
The biggest field that I've called is 17. It was a Michigan Sires Stakes at DRC.

I will say this. Many have surmised that European announcers are more talented because they regularly call fields of 20 or 25 or even more. Suggestiing that North American announcers would struggle.

IMO that's total rubbish. Kurt Becker could call 50 and not be fazed.

I feel very confident that there are many of us. Tom. Trevor, Larry, Frank, Dools, Wrona, Rodman and many others that could make excellent calls of the racing in Europe. We just haven't had the opportunity.
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Old 05-04-2009, 02:27 PM
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The biggest field that I've called is 17. It was a Michigan Sires Stakes at DRC.

I will say this. Many have surmised that European announcers are more talented because they regularly call fields of 20 or 25 or even more. Suggestiing that North American announcers would struggle.

IMO that's total rubbish. Kurt Becker could call 50 and not be fazed.

I feel very confident that there are many of us. Tom. Trevor, Larry, Frank, Dools, Wrona, Rodman and many others that could make excellent calls of the racing in Europe. We just haven't had the opportunity.
Tell Becker to give up that NASCAR crap and call year round. He's great.
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Old 05-04-2009, 02:27 PM
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The biggest field that I've called is 17. It was a Michigan Sires Stakes at DRC.

I will say this. Many have surmised that European announcers are more talented because they regularly call fields of 20 or 25 or even more. Suggestiing that North American announcers would struggle.

IMO that's total rubbish. Kurt Becker could call 50 and not be fazed.

I feel very confident that there are many of us. Tom. Trevor, Larry, Frank, Dools, Wrona, Rodman and many others that could make excellent calls of the racing in Europe. We just haven't had the opportunity.
I think you should give it a go.
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:47 PM
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The biggest field that I've called is 17. It was a Michigan Sires Stakes at DRC.

I will say this. Many have surmised that European announcers are more talented because they regularly call fields of 20 or 25 or even more. Suggestiing that North American announcers would struggle.

IMO that's total rubbish. Kurt Becker could call 50 and not be fazed.

I feel very confident that there are many of us. Tom. Trevor, Larry, Frank, Dools, Wrona, Rodman and many others that could make excellent calls of the racing in Europe. We just haven't had the opportunity.
All due respect Vic, and you're terrific, but I think the the most underrated guy on this list is Dave Rodman. I wish he would get out of cruddy MD. and get a crack at a big time job. Listen to his Preakness call of '07.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjt4SiRatB0
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:29 PM
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They should do what del mar and Kenneland does and put transmitters on the horses to determine the positions of the horses.
I agree, Trakus would be great for the Derby.
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Old 05-04-2009, 02:26 PM
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For the record, this isn't the first time he's completely missed a move like that. Pleasant Home's move in the Distaff, up the rail and then 3 wide to in front he missed until she was in front. But I couldn't hear his call from the rail so I was just happy to see the saddlenumber since the idiots at the BC can't allow colors.
Similar scenario. 30-1 shot wins by 10, if you were him wouldn't you pause to make sure you had the right horse? Pleasant Home at least had the recognizable Phipps silks, but same idea.

Like I said before from what I've read and heard from him, he handicaps every race and has expectations of where to look for certain horses. When a seemingly impossible horse makes a huge move on the inside and shoots through for a convincing win, he probably wanted to make absolutely certain he had the right one (especially given the angle they come at there, you can't see the saddletowels to in fact confirm it was the #8.) Everybody in our group had the same reaction. "Who the f*ck was that?" At first I thought it was Fresian Fire, because at least that would make sense. Then it dawned on everyone that only Borel would make that move up the rail- and I'll be damned, it was.
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Similar scenario. 30-1 shot wins by 10, if you were him wouldn't you pause to make sure you had the right horse? Pleasant Home at least had the recognizable Phipps silks, but same idea.

Like I said before from what I've read and heard from him, he handicaps every race and has expectations of where to look for certain horses. When a seemingly impossible horse makes a huge move on the inside and shoots through for a convincing win, he probably wanted to make absolutely certain he had the right one (especially given the angle they come at there, you can't see the saddletowels to in fact confirm it was the #8.) Everybody in our group had the same reaction. "Who the f*ck was that?" At first I thought it was Fresian Fire, because at least that would make sense. Then it dawned on everyone that only Borel would make that move up the rail- and I'll be damned, it was.
Even when I realized it was Borel I still had no clue what horse it was.
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:33 PM
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Even when I realized it was Borel I still had no clue what horse it was.

agreed.. first I said... "what just happened"... after that it was "What NUMBER is that" then "its the 8?? Who the fucl< is the 8??" after going to my DRF "Who the fucl< is Mine that Bird?"
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