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Old 05-02-2009, 11:26 PM
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Theoretically Dunkirk, Friesan Fire, and Papa Clem would have been the most logical Beyer finish, but it didn't happen, then I don't understand why we should say IWR, QR and Old Fashioned I am assuming he is the third horse would have been 1-2-3 today if they ran.
A Speed figure - if accurate - only tells you how fast a horse ran final time wise given the inherent speed of the race track.

IWR and QR ran extremely fast races without smoke and mirorrs. Genuine great performances.

FF had one perfect trip after another. I liked Pioneer of the Nile better than him and picked him above FF. And even though FF's form is overrated he ran way too bad to be believed today. Something happened.

Dunkirk figured to get his education today - and I certainly don't believe he's as much horse as Quaility Road right now. He ran too bad to be true and will bounce back as well.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:20 AM
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A Speed figure - if accurate - only tells you how fast a horse ran final time wise given the inherent speed of the race track.

IWR and QR ran extremely fast races without smoke and mirorrs. Genuine great performances.

FF had one perfect trip after another. I liked Pioneer of the Nile better than him and picked him above FF. And even though FF's form is overrated he ran way too bad to be believed today. Something happened.

Dunkirk figured to get his education today - and I certainly don't believe he's as much horse as Quaility Road right now. He ran too bad to be true and will bounce back as well.
Dunkirk was my pick and It is likely he has more upside than all but the "other" bird horse but it certainly isn't inconceivable that anyone in today's race could come back in the Preakness and run huge.As a matter of fact it was just a few years ago that a lightly raced horse got an education in the derby and came back to nose out the Derby winner in the Preakness after getting crushed in the Derby.

So with similar reasoning in which many experts used to answer the question "who is the horse that will show improvement going from synthetic to dirt for the first time" and answer "I'm not sure but if you do choose one don't take the short price" then Summer Bird rather than Dunkirk should be the choice over Calvin Borail in the Preakness.
future Preakness result
1-Summer Bird by nose over
2-Mine that Bird by (indeterminate at this time) over
3-POTN (equates to Hard Spun only in finishing position from derby to preakness) (If I remember correctly without looking)

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