Rachel Alexandra

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The real freak.
The term has been overused I guess.
But not with Ghostzapper.

Lost In The Fog as well.

LITF was fast, but he was far from a GZ. GZ's brilliance wasn't just his speed, but his tractability and ability to be equally fast at seemingly any distance. LITF, as fast as he was, never did anything past seven furlongs.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

LITF was fast, but he was far from a GZ. GZ's brilliance wasn't just his speed, but his tractability and ability to be equally fast at seemingly any distance. LITF, as fast as he was, never did anything past seven furlongs.

What he did at 6f was incredible.
But if the definition of a freak is all distances, you would have to be correct.
And with a tumor... I wonder how many races
it actually played a role. The last most likely.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pgardn

What he did at 6f was incredible.
But if the definition of a freak is all distances, you would have to be correct.
And with a tumor... I wonder how many races
it actually played a role. The last most likely.

It's not the definition of a freak, but running 110+ Beyers at 6 1/2 furlongs, 7 furlongs, a mile, 1 1/8 miles and 1 1/4 miles is way more impressive than doing it a few times at 6 and 7 furlongs. Not to mention that GZ did it on the lead, stalking, and as a dead closer.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's not the definition of a freak, but running 110+ Beyers at 6 1/2 furlongs, 7 furlongs, a mile, 1 1/8 miles and 1 1/4 miles is way more impressive than doing it a few times at 6 and 7 furlongs. Not to mention that GZ did it on the lead, stalking, and as a dead closer.

All of his races were just unbelievable, but this will always be my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyQvNu-XQoQ

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

All of his races were just unbelievable, but this will always be my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyQvNu-XQoQ

His '03 Vosburgh win was my favorite. His turn of foot was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxoPR7THZvM

Consider that he went wire-to-wire a year later in winning the BC Classic.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

His '03 Vosburgh win was my favorite. His turn of foot was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxoPR7THZvM

Consider that he went wire-to-wire a year later in winning the BC Classic.

He was incredible, it would have been even more incredible if Frankel wasn't winning everything back then...

[CSC]

Originally Posted by monipenny

Why the hell does this deflect from what the Zapper did in his brief career. I truly believe his most magnificent victory was his last- the Met Mile. Jon Nerud called Frankel after the race and said " the greatest milers have the most influence on the breed in racing."

Do I really have to give you an answer for you to understand? You really want me to...Okay then, think of Roger Clemons before the steroids scandal, and now think of him after the scandal. Notice any difference of your thoughts towards him?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

His '03 Vosburgh win was my favorite. His turn of foot was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxoPR7THZvM

Consider that he went wire-to-wire a year later in winning the BC Classic.

Yeah, that one was pretty darn impressive.

While they are no where in the same league as Ghostzapper, it's kinda funny how Castellano lucks into some of the biggest horses in the past few years like Bernardini and Bellamy Road in the Wood.

[Travis Stone]

No need to compare, contrast and wonder if she could be this filly or that filly of yesteryear. Regardless, a 20 length win by a filly who looked like she was out for an afternoon gallop is pretty awesome.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

His '03 Vosburgh win was my favorite. His turn of foot was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxoPR7THZvM

Consider that he went wire-to-wire a year later in winning the BC Classic.

His 3yo return race might have been my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSo-M...eature=related

When he broke with the field and starting dropping out of it I remember saying "damn.. he's ruined."

His debut race as a 2yo was great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWklJ...eature=related

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's not the definition of a freak, but running 110+ Beyers at 6 1/2 furlongs, 7 furlongs, a mile, 1 1/8 miles and 1 1/4 miles is way more impressive than doing it a few times at 6 and 7 furlongs. Not to mention that GZ did it on the lead, stalking, and as a dead closer.

If Beyer numbers are what we go by,
then Ghostzapper has to be the best of all
time. How many Beyers numbers at or over 120 did he get?
Got a bit far-fetched (the measuring stick went wacky)
Has any horse ever received that many Beyers at or over 120?
Has any horse had, what, about 40% of his Beyers at or over 120?

Wacked out.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pgardn

If Beyer numbers are what we go by,
then Ghostzapper has to be the best of all
time. How many Beyers numbers at or over 120 did he get?
Got a bit far-fetched (the measuring stick went wacky)
Has any horse ever received that many Beyers at or over 120?
Has any horse had, what, about 40% of his Beyers at or over 120?

Wacked out.

Like I said, it's not just his speed, it's how many different ways he did what he did.

He had four 120+ Beyers. 128 in the Iselin, 124 in the BC Classic, 123 in the Met Mile and 120 in the Tom Fool. I'm pretty positive he's not the only horse with multiple 120+ numbers. Groovy ran 133 and 132 in back-to-back six-furlong races.