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gales0678 · #1 04-30-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Incorrect. If he was functional they would have fired the pitching coach by now.

i don't disagree with that , but no $20mm bust would have gotten a pass this long , the boys sure ain't like the old man , maddon or someone else would have buried him for a day in the papers already

MaTH716 · #2 04-30-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

maybe so after that , but , your attempt at humor was based on what i said about friday night

I know this is a big mistake, but could you please refresh my memory? You had a few gems last week and I forgot which one you are talking about.

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Originally Posted by gales0678

i don't disagree with that , but no $20mm bust would have gotten a pass this long , the boys sure ain't like the old man , maddon or someone else would have buried him for a day in the papers already

Isn't it a bit premature calling a guy a bust 11 games into a 8 year contract? Or did Scuds tell you to say that?

gales0678 · #3 04-30-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I know this is a big mistake, but could you please refresh my memory? You had a few gems last week and I forgot which one you are talking about.

Isn't it a bit premature calling a guy a bust 11 games into a 8 year contract? Or did Scuds tell you to say that?

maybe bust is a strong word , but, how is a disappointment , is that a better word for you ?- do you not think that the steinbrenners are not diappointed that he is hitting under .200 a month into the season , do you not think that not seeing him come thourgh in the clutch against the red sox in the 10 th inning wasn't a disappointment -

MaTH716 · #4 04-30-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

maybe bust is a strong word , but, how is a disappointment , is that a better word for you ?- do you not think that the steinbrenners are not diappointed that he is hitting under .200 a month into the season , do you not think that not seeing him come thourgh in the clutch against the red sox in the 10 th inning wasn't a disappointment -

Sure he has underachevied so far. But do you actually believe that he's going to hit .200 all season? He is a notorious for getting hot after the all star break. Obviously that doesn't give him a pass for the 1st half. Does it worry you that the pitching staff is 12th in the AL in ERA? They are 4th & 5th in the AL in AVG. and runs scored. So like I said, I'm more concerened about the pitching then the hitting. They are averaging over 5 runs a game and that's with Tex around .200 and A-Rod out of the lineup. The offense will be fine.
To answer your question about the game in Boston. Sure I would have seen him like to get a big hit off one of the top closers in the leauge. But he didn't and them losing that game goes squarely on Mariano's shoulders PERIOD! But I'll bet you Tex does collect a few big hits in the 141 games that's still left in the season.

gales0678 · #5 04-30-2009, 12:14 PM

see below

gales0678 · #6 04-30-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Sure he has underachevied so far. But do you actually believe that he's going to hit .200 all season

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

? He is a notorious for getting hot after the all star break. Obviously that doesn't give him a pass for the 1st half. Does it worry you that the pitching staff is 12th in the AL in ERA? They are 4th & 5th in the AL in AVG. and runs scored. So like I said, I'm more concerened about the pitching then the hitting. They are averaging over 5 runs a game and that's with Tex around .200 and A-Rod out of the lineup. The offense will be fine.
To answer your question about the game in Boston. Sure I would have seen him like to get a big hit off one of the top closers in the leauge. But he didn't and them losing that game goes squarely on Mariano's shoulders PERIOD! But I'll bet you Tex does collect a few big hits in the 141 games that's still left in the season.

1)no
2)yes
3)agree
4)i would hope so

gales0678 · #7 04-30-2009, 10:42 AM

[quote=MaTH716]I know this is a big mistake, but could you please refresh my memory? You had a few gems last week and I forgot which one you are talking about.

nope - i only commented about the boston game strike out

gales0678 · #8 04-30-2009, 11:01 AM

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I think Tex is pretty far down on the Steinbrenner's frustration's. Tex wasn't brought in to change anything. He was just another high priced bat brought in for more firepower. They have never had problems scoring. Their achilles heel the past few years has been pitching. They spent a lot more money on pitching than they did Tex in the off season and what do they have to show for it? Their pitchers can't get through the 5th and their bullpen, minus an old Mariano is flat out bad.

The Steinbrenner's are STILL trying to fill their brand new stadium. Have you seen the amount of empty seats at these games? They had to cut the most expensive seats in HALF. As a betting man, I'd say that's what the Steinbrenner's are focused on and figuring out what to do with the pitching. Not Tex striking out in a series they were swept. That's not a problem, the pitching is.

the point of the whole thing is the pitching is bad i ain't saying there isn't problems there, but , go ahead and ask any of the steinbreners about tex so far and ask them how they felt about the strikeout in that spot - i'm sure a guy hiitng .195 and collecting $22.5 million is a major disappointment to them at this point -

scuds made a point about the guy being a differnce makers , and that is what he was brought in here to be - so far through 1 month of the season he has been a major disappointment

SCUDSBROTHER · #9 04-30-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

the point of the whole thing is the pitching is bad i ain't saying there isn't problems there, but , go ahead and ask any of the steinbreners about tex so far and ask them how they felt about the strikeout in that spot - i'm sure a guy hiitng .195 and collecting $22.5 million is a major disappointment to them at this point -

scuds made a point about the guy being a differnce makers , and that is what he was brought in here to be - so far through 1 month of the season he has been a major disappointment

Well, I am mistaken about their goals. I thought a guy making over 20 mil a year would be expected to be a difference-maker, but he's just another high-priced bat brought in for more fire power. Yanks keep lowering what they want done in return for 20 mil a year.

SCUDSBROTHER · #10 04-30-2009, 01:09 PM

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SCUDS, in your opinion do you think the Steinbrenner's looked at the roster this year and thought Tex in the lineup would get them over the hump? Or was it more the signing of Sabathia and Burnett?

I just think he thought it's easier to piss away money than to have to build something.

SCUDSBROTHER · #11 04-30-2009, 01:22 PM

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It's a simple question. I think you and Gales have more expectations than the Steinbrenners. They don't care about the 20 million. He was the best player available and thats what they want. He wasn't brought in to fill a hole they were lacking. They'll always be able to score runs. That's not what is getting them beat.

They want to buy a WORLD SERIES, and it can't be done. You must have some young a-s-s kickers of your own.

gales0678 · #12 04-30-2009, 12:21 PM

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I think most people know what the point of this was and it certainly wasn't a reasonable discussion. Tex was not brought in to be a difference maker, that is why Sabathia and Burnett were brought in. They needed pitching and still do. That's what will make a difference with this team. Tex was another big bat, who coincidentally got off to a slow start last year also.

But, since you are so connected, or at least play that role on the internet, why don't you ask the Steinbrenner's and come on back and tell us. I for one can't wait for more insider knowledge.

i never said i knew any of the stienbrenners personally , my comments were based on how geroge reacted in the past on certain high priced free agents - there would have been a story / a challenge to TEX already in the daily news by now , any yankee fan knows that and knows the reason why there hasn't been