Chief Officer

[sumitas]

Chief Officer is a girl

[Revolution]

ny breds really are not competitive. sorry but they are not very good. i would take KY, FL, CA over ny breds.

[sumitas]

are you insane ? ever hear of Behaving Badly ? Fleet Indian ? Funny Cide ? Say Florida Sandy ?

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by sumitas

are you insane ? ever hear of Behaving Badly ? Fleet Indian ? Funny Cide ? Say Florida Sandy ?

i have heard of them. 4 horses is not much to brag about. obviously KY breds are the best. FL breds are clearly second best. i will take best pal, tiznow, free house, officer, brother derek and the CA breds too over the NY breds. NY and CA are basically the same though. not much there.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Chief Officer is a girl

My mistake, Sumitas.
Find the thread about "breeding", the stallion thread..over rated and under.
Revolution asked. I need your two cents.
Seems this one poooh pooohs too much.
Might just be a curious kid. I was one also.
Might be time for him to listen.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

My mistake, Sumitas.
Find the thread about "breeding", the stallion thread..over rated and under.
Revolution asked. I need your two cents.
Seems this one poooh pooohs too much.
Might just be a curious kid. I was one also.
Might be time for him to listen.

i am not a kid. i am sure you guys know plenty. i am always learning but i am pretty confident i have as much experience in the breeding game.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Revolution

i am not a kid. i am sure you guys know plenty. i am always learning but i am pretty confident i have as much experience in the breeding game.

I meant no offense. We've had enough of those threads lately.
Just don't under rate nybreds. Many good horses have been born, bred and raced in NY.
Disagree all you want. Facts speak for themselves.

"Actions speak louder than words"
DTS

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

I meant no offense. We've had enough of those threads lately.
Just don't under rate nybreds. Many good horses have been born, bred and raced in NY.
Disagree all you want. Facts speak for themselves.

"Actions speak louder than words"
DTS

i am not knocking ny breds. i actually just do not like how horses like fleet indian and funny cide are considered ny breds. their sires stand in kentucky. the state where a horse is bred is really not important though anyway other than to meet the conditions for state bred races. many of the ny bred races run at saratoga make me question exactly what is going on in terms of race fixing. some odd things happen in those races.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

I have to agree with DTS. I horse that can run and win is a horse that can run and win. It doesn't matter where they are from at all...it's just a location. Back in 2003, I would have taken Funny Cide over all 3 year old KY breds.

Are KY breds better overall than NY breds...well of course. But, that certainly wouldn't keep me from buying a nice NY bred who was fast and could win or breeding good NY horses.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I have to agree with DTS. I horse that can run and win is a horse that can run and win. It doesn't matter where they are from at all...it's just a location. Back in 2003, I would have taken Funny Cide over all 3 year old KY breds.

Are KY breds better overall than NY breds...well of course. But, that certainly wouldn't keep me from buying a nice NY bred who was fast and could win or breeding good NY horses.

hard to take funny cide over empire maker, but i see your point. ny needs better stallions though. they just don't have anything to offer. the fact is there are less than 20 ny bred millionaires and i do not think there has ever been a horse of the year that was a ny bred. if i am correct they keep changing the rules in ny to even be considered a ny bred.

chief seattle is the only top 100 sire standing in NY and shillelagh slew has earned him everything racing in Canada. even Maryland has better stallions.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Revolution

hard to take funny cide over empire maker, but i see your point. ny needs better stallions though. they just don't have anything to offer. the fact is there are less than 20 ny bred millionaires and i do not think there has ever been a horse of the year that was a ny bred.

Actually, Revolution, there are some pretty good stallions in NY. The mares are what's needed imho. Though we have a few nice ones here.
If your looking for a triple crown winner, well, we've been waiting a long time is all I can say. HOY might happen sooner than later.
NY has done a lot to boost breeders.
I agree with GR, it doesn't matter where it's born.
Have a look:

http://www.nybreds.com/frames/FS_incentives.html

DTS