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Old 04-27-2009, 12:37 PM
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The track may have been somewhat dull during training hours but, if you spent a few moments and looked at the final times of the races from the weekend, I don't think you would use the same adjective to describe the racing surface.
Who's talking about the afternoon? The conversation was refering to the morning.. And as Phil points out, the afternoon wasn't outlandish by any means. There was some wind that maybe factored in to those fast backstretch splits.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:43 PM
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:53 PM
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Who's talking about the afternoon? The conversation was refering to the morning.. And as Phil points out, the afternoon wasn't outlandish by any means. There was some wind that maybe factored in to those fast backstretch splits.
Your post said that the track was "torpid for days." I missed the part where the reader had to differentiate between the lifeless track in the morning and the "not outlandish" one in the afternoon.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:04 PM
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I would certainly prefer to see the track playing lightening fast come Derby day.

It's not even close to that yet.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:23 PM
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I would certainly prefer to see the track playing lightening fast come Derby day.
Given the toll the souped up tracks take on the horse population, why would you want that?

I'd much rather see a track producing par or close to par times on Saturday.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:47 PM
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Given the toll the souped up tracks take on the horse population, why would you want that?
I think that's pretty much nonsense.

I'd love to see the track like it has been in most Derby's past. I think it makes for the most fairly run and exciting races.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:55 PM
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I think that's pretty much nonsense.
Go talk to a trainer about the impact that racing over hard tracks have on the horses (splints, etc.), and maybe you'll change your opinion.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:58 PM
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Go talk to a trainer about the impact that racing over hard tracks have on the horses (splints, etc.), and maybe you'll change your opinion.
The track cushion has been made deeper and deeper over the years ...

Have the horses become more sound as a result?

A lot of times when the track is very fast - it is wrongly viewed to be speed favoring by jocks and horseman - and the races tend to be a little more demandingly run.

I guess let's just run everything on poly track where the distance horses go 50 and change under holds and still fade through the stretch.

I'd hate to see a track like the one Gulfstream had on Sunshine Millions day.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:09 PM
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That's twice Steve has said POTN looks good. I was just waiting to see how he likes it there. That's my choice. We will see whether he's what I think he is, or if he's what Andy says he is ("PIONEER OF NOTHING.")
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:20 PM
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That's twice Steve has said POTN looks good. I was just waiting to see how he likes it there. That's my choice. We will see whether he's what I think he is, or if he's what Andy says he is ("PIONEER OF NOTHING.")
Love to hear Andy debate John White on the prospects of POTN in the Derby on ATR...
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:00 PM
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I would certainly prefer to see the track playing lightening fast come Derby day.

It's not even close to that yet.
CD doesnt want to lose their Blue Ribbon safety award that the NTRA gave them.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:05 PM
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CD doesnt want to lose their Blue Ribbon safety award that the NTRA gave them.
Now THAT is funny!!!!!
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