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04-23-2009, 09:29 PM
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Dunkirk or Desert Party.
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04-23-2009, 09:44 PM
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Haber, it just makes me wonder b/c when im at races and some horse that i figured would be 8-1 or so jumps down to like 5/2 it always makes me wonder what did i miss? Same thing with KD but i think the odds movements are a lot more volatile like a horse i figured would be 30-1 is 9-1. Just freaks me out sometimes.
ateam, what you think dunkirk's m/l then actual post time odds will be? im thinking m/l 10-1 post time 6-1.
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04-23-2009, 10:00 PM
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04-23-2009, 10:06 PM
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I think the betting is going to be similar to the 2007 edition with the fav @ almost 5:1 ( IWR ), two others at just under 10:1, ( QR and Dunkirk ) some mid-prices, and probably 10 or 12 @ 25:1 or more
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04-24-2009, 06:11 AM
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Pioneer of the Nile after Weds. work
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04-24-2009, 06:22 AM
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04-24-2009, 08:23 AM
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Any of the Italian Horses ?
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04-24-2009, 08:25 AM
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I agree about Dunkirk. I think some casual fans might look at Chocolate Candy with Mike Smith and think it's "Giacomo" all over again, which I won't buy into at all.
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04-24-2009, 09:31 AM
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Your buddies who don't follow racing, except for Derby Days, are thus not anything close to " wise guys. "
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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04-24-2009, 09:42 AM
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I'm thinking it will be Papa Clem. I think that the three main horses coming out of California (Pioneer, IWR, and Papa Clem) all had/have the dirt question to answer. IWR and PC both have answered it while Pioneer has yet to do so. Now that we know PC can run on the dirt, I think more attention is going to be put on the fact that he did finish ahead of IWR at Santa Anita. I know Old Fashioned got hurt in the running and a lot of people weren't impressed with the Arkansas Derby but for me, it was a really good effort. I could see Papa Clem dropping down to about the 7/1 or 8/1 range.
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04-24-2009, 09:43 AM
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04-24-2009, 10:42 AM
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When was the last time the "wise guy" horse actually WON the Derby? Or even hit the board???
And I don't want to hear Monarchos because he was a strong contender all season.
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04-23-2009, 10:08 PM
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I get ESPN the magazine, and of course they never have jack sh1t for horse racing coverage. Then they go ahead and put in something horse related in this issue and of course it's not a good story about the sport or the Derby coming up, it's about vets that have to put down horses on the track including a gruesome picture of a horse with 2 broken forelegs.
Then in a little sidebox they give their wiseguy horses. Chocolate Candy Desert Party and Pioneer of the Nile - lol
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