Save Presque Isle Downs

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

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However, if playing tracks with small fields, many highly uncompetitive races, and sky high takeout isn't your type of thing .. you'll find better options anywhere else you look.

This appears similar to GG. Most seem to think that big, competitive fields make for better racing. I think the opposite. If you play tracks like GG selectively, you can actually do very well. I follow GG on a regular bases but I rarely bet more than 1 or 2 races a day there.

It's all about picking your spots. And, if you play a lot of other tracks, it's easier to resist the urge to bet races where you don't have an advantage/opinion.

This summer I'm focusing on DMR, AP, WO, and PID. I'll also, of course, be playing many of the non poly tracks.

Equibase uses TRAKUS data for the WO charts. Can't get anything more accurate out there. This makes the track a must to play.

Most of the focus seems to be on lowering takeout, while it should be on more accurate, more accessible, data, IMO.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Equibase uses TRAKUS data for the WO charts. Can't get anything more accurate out there. This makes the track a must to play.

Hopefully it's accurate enough to offset the take-out...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

The takeout at Woodbine compares favorably to PID ... and the fields are much deeper and races more competitive and the pool sizes larger.

[philcski]

The takeout in PA in general is an absolute joke. Always has been.

Or in a Byk-style word I've been holding out on, it's USURIOUS.

[PatCummings]

Someone mentioned PID has Polytrack, was there a change away from Tapeta?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

No. Still Tapeta.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

I was there July 4th weekend last year......the wife & I enjoyed the facility very much! A lot nicer the Finger Lakes, maybe because it's newer and the race product isn't much different. Will be making a trip there again sometime this year.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Someone mentioned PID has Polytrack, was there a change away from Tapeta?

most of us use the term polytrack to talk about any synthetic surface. kind of like when you ask for a kleenex, and get handed a puffs...it's still a tissue.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Most of the focus seems to be on lowering takeout, while it should be on more accurate, more accessible, data, IMO.

Seriously?