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Old 04-18-2009, 10:42 PM
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Old 04-18-2009, 10:53 PM
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I particularly enjoyed the ISO view of Prado's ride on Square Eddie where it became even clearer that he pushed the button far too soon. He had to have felt like a fool afterwards, especially knowing what he had under him.

You can't help but think he was rushed back, he was completely empty after the far turn move today and is now going to come back in two weeks against 19 horses on a foreign surface at a distance that's a furlong and a half farther than anything he's run before? I'd need a hell of a lot more than the 20-1 he's going to be to even ponder it.

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Old 04-18-2009, 10:57 PM
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I particularly enjoyed the ISO view of Prado's ride on Square Eddie where it became even clearer that he pushed the button far too soon. He had to have felt like a fool afterwards, especially knowing what he had under him.

You can't help but think he was rushed back, he was completely empty after the far turn move today and is now going to come back in two weeks against 19 horses on a foreign surface at a distance that's a furlong and a half farther than anything he's run before? I'd need a hell of a lot more than the 20-1 he's going to be to even ponder it.

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he'd win a beauty contest...as for the derby, i'd go with dunkirk first.
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Old 04-18-2009, 10:57 PM
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I thought today that if Square Eddie wins, I lose.

On Derby Day, if Square Eddie finishes in the super, I'll lose.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:03 PM
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I particularly enjoyed the ISO view of Prado's ride on Square Eddie where it became even clearer that he pushed the button far too soon. He had to have felt like a fool afterwards, especially knowing what he had under him.
Was that Prado? I was out of town for the day and when I watched the replay a few minutes ago I thought it was Ariel Smith riding.

How do the connections keep from taking turns burying their BOOTS DEEP IN PRADO's ASS after a ride like that? The stewards really need to call that ****** in. Nothing like taking a horse coming back off an injury and PUNISHING it.
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:32 AM
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Was that Prado? I was out of town for the day and when I watched the replay a few minutes ago I thought it was Ariel Smith riding.

How do the connections keep from taking turns burying their BOOTS DEEP IN PRADO's ASS after a ride like that? The stewards really need to call that ****** in. Nothing like taking a horse coming back off an injury and PUNISHING it.
My thoughts exactly. And when he broke slow why settle him into stride 5 WIDE on the first turn. Advice was settled in from outside SE and taken to the fence!
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:34 AM
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My thoughts exactly. And when he broke slow why settle him into stride 5 WIDE on the first turn. Advice was settled in from outside SE and taken to the fence!
yea, I was worried at first because Advice broke too well and I wanted him to get over to the rail.
And Square Eddie broke so relaxed, he just broke perfectly if Edgar had wanted to get a spot inside, and it was frustrating seeing Advice have to wait to go around Square Eddie and lose a little ground. With the premature move it turned out to be the perfect trip,
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:48 AM
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My thoughts exactly. And when he broke slow why settle him into stride 5 WIDE on the first turn. Advice was settled in from outside SE and taken to the fence!
That's a question many jocks need to answer. I can understand getting caught wide on the 1st turn if the horse is a need-to-lead type. But why do I repeatedly see horses that are at the end of the pack taking turns 5 and 6 wide?

In this case, Square Eddie ran 50 feet more than the winner and 33 feet more than the runner up. That would be 5 3/4 and 3 3/4 LENGTHS MORE.

The only two horses in the race to cover more ground than SQ (54 ft and 62 ft)
finished 8th and 10th and neither was ever a threat in the race.
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Old 04-19-2009, 09:24 AM
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I thought it was a nice 'prep' for Square Eddie, prep being the operative word, he looked healthy enough yesterday and no doubt needed a race.
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Old 04-19-2009, 10:03 AM
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What's the line.....those that don't learn from the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them in the future.
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:19 PM
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I thought it was a nice 'prep' for Square Eddie, prep being the operative word, he looked healthy enough yesterday and no doubt needed a race.
How do you come up with this assessment? Anything remotely approaching a decent trip, anything near what the top 2 in the race got, and SQ gallops.

Name a horse that would've won under those conditions.

If you can't readily think of one, then maybe SQ was fit and didn't need the race. He just got abused by the trip.

SQ was short the way Bernardini was short in the BC.
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