Bring on Belmont

Originally Posted by oracle80

Yeah they will dig up 3 other horses because they will be guranteed a profit on the race with purse money, but thats it.
Discreet Cat was scary last time out and I can't see anyone wasting an effort with a good horse agaisnt someone like that. Hes just incredible. Hope he stays sound. Could he perhaps be in the Classic as well this year? Or would they not wanna put Bern, Invasor, and Cat in against each other. Quite frankly, with the melt down that the older horse division has had. I could see those three running 1-2-3 in the Classic. Since I don't like Lava Man in that spot, who the hell else is left? Myabe Sun King if he got the right pace set up?

Oracle, I dont know what the Sheiks will do. But they are going to be loaded for Breeders Cup day. Bern, Invasor, Discreet Cat, Eletrocutionist, Ashkwal Way, Songster, Balleto, Henn Hughes and whoever else they want to send over plus their babies. I couldnt imagine Invasor, Electrocutionist, Bernardini and Discreet Cat all in the Classic. That would be insance.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Oracle, I dont know what the Sheiks will do. But they are going to be loaded for Breeders Cup day. Bern, Invasor, Discreet Cat, Eletrocutionist, Ashkwal Way, Songster, Balleto, Henn Hughes and whoever else they want to send over plus their babies. I couldnt imagine Invasor, Electrocutionist, Bernardini and Discreet Cat all in the Classic. That would be insance.

Ashkal isnt gonna be a contender in either grass race, hes a cut below. So is balletto. Songster is way off form also. I only see Henny Hughes in the sprint and the Classic horses as their hopes from the US contingent. I don't know enough about what they have overseas to comment intelligently about them.

[JJP]

I'm shocked Leparoux is going back to Turfway instead of Belmont. Maybe its the fear of business drop off after he loses the bug.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Ashkal isnt gonna be a contender in either grass race, hes a cut below. So is balletto. Songster is way off form also. I only see Henny Hughes in the sprint and the Classic horses as their hopes from the US contingent. I don't know enough about what they have overseas to comment intelligently about them.

I disagree about Balletto.. She ran a huge race behind Fleet Indian, who got away with absolute murder on the front end.. Two turns and the long stretch at CD should help her out a lot provided she actually gets some pace in front of her.

Also, who are the great milers Ashkal Way has to fear? I'm seriously wondering, because this year's BCM, usually one of the best races of BC day, appears to be coming up light.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I disagree about Balletto.. She ran a huge race behind Fleet Indian, who got away with absolute murder on the front end.. Two turns and the long stretch at CD should help her out a lot provided she actually gets some pace in front of her.

Also, who are the great milers Ashkal Way has to fear? I'm seriously wondering, because this year's BCM, usually one of the best races of BC day, appears to be coming up light.

Gorella and Aragorn are two that come to mind.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Gorella and Aragorn are two that come to mind.

Yeah, Aragorn seems like a nice one, but who's to say Gorella won't go to the F&M Turf?

And besides those two, I can't think of any monsters.. Whereas last year, the BCM field was STACKED with superstars.

[Gander]

Artie Schiller is returning to the races in the coming weeks. Obviously he needs to run well off his last race, but it isnt a stretch that he does and he gets a chance at defending his title in the mile.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, Aragorn seems like a nice one, but who's to say Gorella won't go to the F&M Turf?

And besides those two, I can't think of any monsters.. Whereas last year, the BCM field was STACKED with superstars.

Be interesting to see where Gorella goes. And last year was stacked. Not sure what Europeans there are, but I would love to see Gorella against the boys one last time.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, Aragorn seems like a nice one, but who's to say Gorella won't go to the F&M Turf?

And besides those two, I can't think of any monsters.. Whereas last year, the BCM field was STACKED with superstars.

ouija board is supposed to be there for the f+m turf...definitely a superstar, but as for the mile....aragorn will most likely be my pick. he's definitely fun to watch!



discreet cat is not pointed to the bcc at this point. of course we know things could change, but as of now they have no intention of running him there.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Also, who are the great milers Ashkal Way has to fear? I'm seriously wondering, because this year's BCM, usually one of the best races of BC day, appears to be coming up light.

O-E-Y,

Would think they have to fear Miesque's Approval... a 'lil bit..

SB

Originally Posted by Kasept

O-E-Y,

Would think they have to fear Miesque's Approval... a 'lil bit..

SB

Funny how he slips through the cracks of discussions.
To be honest Steve, I mysefl had forgotten about him.

[Gander]

Hard to forget the horse that beat Jerry Bailey for the final time! Doh!
He was in razor sharp form earlier this year.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Kasept

O-E-Y,

Would think they have to fear Miesque's Approval... a 'lil bit..

SB

Shhh! Quiet! LOL!

I have read that Discreet Cat is not running in the Breeders' Cup Classic this year; Bernardini is the representative for the head of the Maktoum family. If Bernardini falters somehow, I suppose things could change. Certainly I hope that is not the case. I believe Bernardini will beat Invasor in the Jockey Club Gold Cup. Only bad luck will yield another result.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Ashkal isnt gonna be a contender in either grass race, hes a cut below. So is balletto. Songster is way off form also. I only see Henny Hughes in the sprint and the Classic horses as their hopes from the US contingent. I don't know enough about what they have overseas to comment intelligently about them.

I sort of like Balleto. I agree with Songster and Ashkal Way. But I think Balleto is going to show some improvement next time out. She should get a hot pace to chase and that will play into her running style. Ashkal Way is a cut below, and that division is loaded.