California two best 3yo's dirt projections...

[Scav]

Originally Posted by smuthg

I was thinking the same thing... I didn't remember him looking completely "gassed"

after the race it seems like it took forever to get him back to the grandstand, Solis was stopping and letting him catch his breath, he was breathing REALLY hard in the winner circle and if I am not mistaken, even Privman mentioned something about it also in his article

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Scav

after the race it seems like it took forever to get him back to the grandstand, Solis was stopping and letting him catch his breath, he was breathing REALLY hard in the winner circle and if I am not mistaken, even Privman mentioned something about it also in his article

Might be a good idea to check his two prior races (to the last one) for any sign of a TIRED horse. CALRACING offers extended replays, so you can check him out coming back to the paddock.

Your theory would have us believe that the horse wouldn't have won again after breaking his maiden -- and he's won TWICE since. He's just not in a hurry to come back or to run on beyond the wire.

[HaloWishingwell]

I'll be back after The Santa Anita Derby for CHOCOLATE CANDY'S analysis

[johnny pinwheel]

thats the problem with the poly, synthetic, pro-ride. one has to project (guess) if a horse will convert to dirt and it goes the other way too. its a joke and i don't see how its any safer either.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

I'll be back after The Santa Anita Derby for CHOCOLATE CANDY'S analysis

Clearly second to a winner that had plenty left in the tank..

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Clearly second to a winner that had plenty left in the tank..

Yes he was second coming off a seven week layoff, closing to a slow pace and how wide was he around that turn for home? Also Hollendorfer himself said he didnt necessarily needed to win this race. He had the earnings he just needed to look sharp enough. I don't have a problem with his race.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Might be a good idea to check his two prior races (to the last one) for any sign of a TIRED horse. CALRACING offers extended replays, so you can check him out coming back to the paddock.

Your theory would have us believe that the horse wouldn't have won again after breaking his maiden -- and he's won TWICE since. He's just not in a hurry to come back or to run on beyond the wire.

Hideous action on that horse. You would think he would have to be tired using that action to get around the track. Must have some huge lungs.

[Merlinsky]

There's a plethora of youtube for The Pamplemousse including one cutting back and forth between him and PotN. I checked them out after Haskin mentioned it on his Derby dozen. The stride comparisons are pretty stark. I will say though, if you want to look at a horse and go 'oooh pretty' there are some nice shots of TP walking where his coat just looks like liquid silver.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

P'MOO'S action doesn't look quite as bad in his races as it does in his works. I can't watch his works anymore(that's pee-u ugly.) Isn't gunna surprise me if this horse gets hurt before May, and it could happen in one of those works where he is just pounding the ground. He does something ugly in his races, but he does it pretty quickly. Even if you like him, I wouldn't trust him in a future bet. There are some things to like, but people should wait to see if he stays healthy. I wouldn't trust him to like Churchill dirt. POTN and Dunkirk are the class of this bunch. No, that doesn't mean they have to win the K Derby. It means they are gunna easily keep someone else from winning a Triple Crown. Sure, Dunkirk didn't beat anyone yet, but he and PTN are the ones who have looked like class. In other words, I have seen them fkn around playing games etc. I haven't seen them tired(acting foolishly, sure.)They can get beat because of their awkward habits etc., but if you think one of these two isn't gunna win a triple crown race, then you're gunna be mistaken. They are the class, and that's gunna eventually get in the way of the others(who really don't particularly want to go past 9f at all.) Sure, one of the others can run big in the K Derby, but eventually he's gunna be looking at one of these two beat him in one of the other legs. Even if Dunkirk flops Saturday, I still think he's a threat to win a later Triple Crown Race. Why the fck do you think Gomez just happens to be on these two? Huh? Duh...You think he isn't gunna win a Triple Crown race with one of these 2? You're wrong.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

P'MOO'S action doesn't look quite as bad in his races as it does in his works. I can't watch his works anymore(that's pee-u ugly.) Isn't gunna surprise me if this horse gets hurt before May, and it could happen in one of those works where he is just pounding the ground. He does something ugly in his races, but he does it pretty quickly. Even if you like him, I wouldn't trust him in a future bet. There are some things to like, but people should wait to see if he stays healthy. I wouldn't trust him to like Churchill dirt. POTN and Dunkirk are the class of this bunch. No, that doesn't mean they have to win the K Derby. It means they are gunna easily keep someone else from winning a Triple Crown. Sure, Dunkirk didn't beat anyone yet, but he and PTN are the ones who have looked like class. In other words, I have seen them fkn around playing games etc. I haven't seen them tired(acting foolishly, sure.)They can get beat because of their awkward habits etc., but if you think one of these two isn't gunna win a triple crown race, then you're gunna be mistaken. They are the class, and that's gunna eventually get in the way of the others(who really don't particularly want to go past 9f at all.) Sure, one of the others can run big in the K Derby, but eventually he's gunna be looking at one of these two beat him in one of the other legs. Even if Dunkirk flops Saturday, I still think he's a threat to win a later Triple Crown Race. Why the fck do you think Gomez just happens to be on these two? Huh? Duh...You think he isn't gunna win a Triple Crown race with one of these 2? You're wrong.

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[slotdirt]

I wonder what DrugS thinks about the "other" top 3YO in California.