It's not "just" David Junior now

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Premium Tap is o/o Premium Red/Phylomina-Thirty Six Red (Seattle Slew line). No earth shattering names but a good bottom line with 2 reines de course and 1 g1 winner. He is 3x4 to Stage Door Johnny. That Will Farish (co-breeder of PT) comes up with some interesting matings.

So anyone who is not a sheikh has some hope.

Sumitas,
I'm bold enough to say that in this game, a sheikh and a little guy like me have exactly the same chances when our horses find their way into the gate.
It's happened before, and will happen again and again.
Today we found a few well bred favs go down to lessers.
It's just a big oval afterall. The horses do it, whether it's a 500K sire like Storm Cat, or one that doesn't hook with the sales ring buyers cause they haven't heard the name. It gives a little guy like me hope.
My guess is that many have forgotten Stage Door Johnny.
I haven't. The gene pool is pretty close.
DTS

[sumitas]

DTS,
hypo Darbay with Silver Music. Outstanding. DOn't forget Peruvian and Legion FIeld either. And Key Contender for Bourbon Streettune, or any Ice Capade top line sire.

i know these are not Deputy Minister lines but indulge me, lol.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by sumitas

DTS,
hypo Darbay with Silver Music. Outstanding. DOn't forget Peruvian and Legion FIeld either. And Key Contender for Bourbon Streettune, or any Ice Capade top line sire.

i know these are not Deputy Minister lines but indulge me, lol.

Sumitas,
Thanks. I wrote them down. Darbay is 100% winners from starters. Sires have been Gold Miner's Gold and Gone for Real.
Ice Capade looks like a good match for Boubon Streettune. The Stanislavsky filly is gorgeous. That one is heavy with Northern Dancer. She's growing like a weed.
Thanks for the input.
DTS

[sumitas]

Do your thing personally, i'd love to see you inbreed some of the reines de course in the mares. Darbay is exceptionally well bred with many reines de course in her first 5 gens. just my 2 cents from the peanut gallery.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Sumitas,
Thanks. I wrote them down. Darbay is 100% winners from starters. Sires have been Gold Miner's Gold and Gone for Real.
Ice Capade looks like a good match for Boubon Streettune. The Stanislavsky filly is gorgeous. That one is heavy with Northern Dancer. She's growing like a weed.
Thanks for the input.
DTS

100% winners from starters?! congratulations!!

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by sumitas

DTS,
hypo Darbay with Silver Music. Outstanding. DOn't forget Peruvian and Legion FIeld either. And Key Contender for Bourbon Streettune, or any Ice Capade top line sire.

i know these are not Deputy Minister lines but indulge me, lol.

Sumitas,
Help me out on this if you have some time. The only Ice Capade I could find in NY is Chief Seattle ( Seattle Slew X Skatingonthinice by Ice Capade).
Chief Seattle is at Empire Stud in Hudson, NY.
Here's Key Contender. I couldn't find Ice Capade in his ped.
Thanks.

http://www.highcliff.com/registry_pdf/key_contender.pdf

[Downthestretch55]

Here's the hypo for Silver MusicXDarbay. I see what you mean on this.
Line breeding to Raise a Native, Native Dancer.
Silver Music's fee seems plenty good too.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/p/20062.php

[Danzig]

hey dts...i've done a bit of looking...

calumar, by seattle slew x sweet tooth (dam of alydar)...not sure if you have the right kind of horse for him, but i thought i'd mention him.

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Here's the hypo for Silver MusicXDarbay. I see what you mean on this.
Line breeding to Raise a Native, Native Dancer.
Silver Music's fee seems plenty good too.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/p/20062.php

if they are a physical match the Silver Music/Darbay, i guarantee that pedigree has winner written all over it. Nines Wild, Night Caller, and Trick Me are tail male Ice Capade in NY.

The Key Contender/Bourbon Streettune i like because of the Ace Card 5x5 that results. I think Concorde Bound has had some success crossing Bold Ruler line to Bold Ruler tail male which the Key Contender gives you too. A nice ped always results when you cross the potent males and then inbreed a reines de course to really tighten up the ped. Inbreeding reine de course gives the sire more of what he is looking for, imo.

Calumar, a Calumet bred son of Seattle Slew, is a 1/2 brother to Alydar and he has just never gotten decent mares. He has shown success with Northern Dancer influenced mares. He is a great outcross for Northern Dancer/Mr Prospector and more breeders need to send him some mares. He's not getting any younger and his pedigree is to die for.

Of course you should match the couple physically before a mating, not just on paper.

[Downthestretch55]

Danzig and Sumitas,
Thank you both very much.
I'll be doing research and having a look at them at the farms.
I have an "in" with High Cliff, so Key Contender might be right.
Do you know anything about Dehere? He's the sire of Stanislavsky.
The grey filly has turned into something. Of course, she's about two years from hitting the track, but looking better every day.
Thanks for your insights. I write them all down.
Calamar! And here I was looking at Aly Galore.
DTS

[sumitas]

Calumar is one of the world's best bred horses.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Danzig and Sumitas,
Thank you both very much.
I'll be doing research and having a look at them at the farms.
I have an "in" with High Cliff, so Key Contender might be right.
Do you know anything about Dehere? He's the sire of Stanislavsky.
The grey filly has turned into something. Of course, she's about two years from hitting the track, but looking better every day.
Thanks for your insights. I write them all down.
Calamar! And here I was looking at Aly Galore.
DTS

you're welcome....altho i didn't do a whole lot! but i like looking at pedigrees...if i didn't work so much, i might make all that a hobby. but no time right now. maybe some day.