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[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I will defer that question to the #1 Jets fan around here. I honestly haven't seen enough of him to make a fair evaluation.

Well the Jets fans will find out how mediocre he is soon enough. He was with the Bills three years and he's not very good. Slow, average tackler, and can't make big plays without help. I have to imagine the Jets could have done just as well plugging a 2nd or 3rd round pick in there. He started 2007 with the Bills second string behind Ko Simpson. Simpson suffered a season ending injury in week one moving Leonhard up to first string. He quickly proved ineffective and was demoted to second string in favor of George Wilson who had been switched from wide receiver in the preseason. Wilson then went down for the season and Leonhard was back in a starting role. A few weeks later they benched him yet again, this time for waiver wire pick up Bryan Scott. Not surprisingly he was allowed to walk after the season.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Well the Jets fans will find out how mediocre he is soon enough. He was with the Bills three years and he's not very good. Slow, average tackler, and can't make big plays without help. I have to imagine the Jets could have done just as well plugging a 2nd or 3rd round pick in there. He started 2007 with the Bills second string behind Ko Simpson. Simpson suffered a season ending injury in week one moving Leonhard up to first string. He quickly proved ineffective and was demoted to second string in favor of George Wilson who had been switched from wide receiver in the preseason. Wilson then went down for the season and Leonhard was back in a starting role. A few weeks later they benched him yet again, this time for waiver wire pick up Bryan Scott. Not surprisingly he was allowed to walk after the season.

He had a very good year with Rex, so I'm confident that he'll be able to improve the Jets' secondary. Seems to me like he's gotten better every season in the NFL. Mainly I think that he fits with the Jets' system and personnel. He's a quick, hard-hitting safety that can cover, which will allow Hollywood to be more of a centerfielder. You can't be that slow if you're a full-time punt returner averaging 11.6 yards per return. Kerry had a terrible year last year, and a big part of it was that he constantly had to make up for the shortcomings in pass coverage of Abram Elam and Eric Smith. This also allows Elam to go back to being a pure run-stuffer and blitzing safety and stop trying to cover down the field.

Neither of the secondary guys the Jets got (Sheppard or Leonhard) are beasts, but they don't have to be. Their jobs are to take pressure off of Revis and Rhodes and stop making it so easy to pick on the other half of the secondary.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He had a very good year with Rex, so I'm confident that he'll be able to improve the Jets' secondary. Mainly I think that he fits with the Jets' system and personnel. He's a quick, hard-hitting safety that can cover, which will allow Hollywood to be more of a centerfielder. You can't be that slow if you're a full-time punt returner averaging 11.6 yards per return. Kerry had a terrible year last year, and a big part of it was that he constantly had to make up for the shortcomings in pass coverage of Abram Elam and Eric Smith. This also allows Elam to go back to being a pure run-stuffer and blitzing safety and stop trying to cover down the field.

Neither of the secondary guys the Jets got (Sheppard or Leonhard) are beasts, but they don't have to be. Their jobs are to take pressure off of Revis and Rhodes and stop making it so easy to pick on the other half of the secondary.

He's not really that quick and with 4.58 speed he isn't that fast either. He'll usually be in the right spot for you and can usually make a tackle when needed but you don't want to rely on him in coverage much. Greer would help your pass coverage a lot more.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

He's not really that quick and with 4.58 speed he isn't that fast either. He'll usually be in the right spot for you and can usually make a tackle when needed but you don't want to rely on him in coverage much. Greer would help your pass coverage a lot more.

If he can cover a ham sandwich coming out of the backfield, he's an improvement over what we already have. I'm confident that Rex knows how to bring out his strengths and hide his weaknesseses.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

He's not really that quick and with 4.58 speed he isn't that fast either. He'll usually be in the right spot for you and can usually make a tackle when needed but you don't want to rely on him in coverage much. Greer would help your pass coverage a lot more.

I agree he is pretty mediocre and benefited a great deal from having Ed Reed on the other side. He was able to concentrate on a smaller portion of the field because of most QB's reluctance to go anywhere near Reed. We shall see but if he has to cover a larger area he will be exposed.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I agree he is pretty mediocre and benefited a great deal from having Ed Reed on the other side. He was able to concentrate on a smaller portion of the field because of most QB's reluctance to go anywhere near Reed. We shall see but if he has to cover a larger area he will be exposed.

Kerry Rhodes is no bum. He's a top five safety in the league when he's playing well.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Kerry Rhodes is no bum. He's a top five safety in the league when he's playing well.

I didn't say Rhodes was a bum. I think Leonhard benefitted a great deal from playing with Reed and the Baltimore pass rush. It's a lot easier to make plays when the QB has no time or is running for his life. Maybe Gholston will be able to put the heat on the QB like Suggs.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I didn't say Rhodes was a bum. I think Leonhard benefitted a great deal from playing with Reed and the Baltimore pass rush. It's a lot easier to make plays when the QB has no time or is running for his life. Maybe Gholston will be able to put the heat on the QB like Suggs.

Or Calvin Pace or Bryan Thomas or David Harris or Bart Scott or Shaun Ellis or Kris Jenkins or Abram Elam. The Jets were near the top of the NFL in sacks last season for a long time even with a gutless defensive coordinator. We have a great safety and a potentially great pass rush as well.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I didn't say Rhodes was a bum. I think Leonhard benefitted a great deal from playing with Reed and the Baltimore pass rush. It's a lot easier to make plays when the QB has no time or is running for his life. Maybe Gholston will be able to put the heat on the QB like Suggs.

Which is why I'm eager to see how Dawkins does in Denver. He'll be left on an island waaay more than he was with us. Hope he does well, but something tells me we won't be seeing the Dawkins that we are used to watching. Bronco fans better pray that they blitz alot.