2/28-3/1 (GP): FOY (Gr. II); Canadian (Gr. III); Davona Dale (Gr. II)

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

O/T, but does anyone know if Bear's Rocket has worked since the Holy Bull?

Bear's Rocket 02/22/2009 PMM 5F 1:01.60 Dirt Fast H
02/15/2009 PMM 5F 1:01.35 Dirt Fast H

http://www.drf.com/workoutsForHorseA...o?rNo=06029990

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Bear's Rocket 02/22/2009 PMM 5F 1:01.60 Dirt Fast H
02/15/2009 PMM 5F 1:01.35 Dirt Fast H

http://www.drf.com/workoutsForHorseA...o?rNo=06029990

Thanks Bigs

I wonder where he'll show up next. I thought for sure that he'd outrun his odds in teh HB and certainly did so IMO.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Thanks Bigs

I wonder where he'll show up next. I thought for sure that he'd outrun his odds in teh HB and certainly did so IMO.

I think they are taking the weenie route and going straight to the Florida Derby. Let's keep conditioning these horses to run every 5 to 8 weeks and then if they win the Derby bring them back in two and act surprised when they breakdown.

[SniperSB23]

Am I alone in thinking that This Ones for Phil can regress here, not like the distance, and still win easily? With the previous trainer he ran just as well at a mile and beyond as he did in sprints. His 6 furlong work suggests we aren't looking at a horse that was sapped from the big effort last out. He has plenty of experiencing going wide so shouldn't be hindered by the 12 post. I honestly don't know how the odds are going to play out in this one but I could easily see this horse slipping through at 5-1 or higher.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Am I alone in thinking that This Ones for Phil can regress here, not like the distance, and still win easily? With the previous trainer he ran just as well at a mile and beyond as he did in sprints. His 6 furlong work suggests we aren't looking at a horse that was sapped from the big effort last out. He has plenty of experiencing going wide so shouldn't be hindered by the 12 post. I honestly don't know how the odds are going to play out in this one but I could easily see this horse slipping through at 5-1 or higher.

I doubt it. I can't see him higher than 7/2. Who's going to take significantly more money? Maybe Notonthesamepage ends up a slight favorite, but bettors won't let TOFP get away again. He's the horse to beat of course, but this is a murderous field, so I can't take anyone at less than 4-1.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I doubt it. I can't see him higher than 7/2. Who's going to take significantly more money? Maybe Notonthesamepage ends up a slight favorite, but bettors won't let TOFP get away again.

I think Capt Candyman Can will be bet down to 5/2 or 2/1 or Beethoveen winds up around 6-1.

While a bloodhorse survey is far from an accurate gauge of betting interest I still found this one interesting:

Bee Cee Cee 1% (18 votes)

Theregoesjojo 10% (136 votes)

Notonthesamepage 10% (124 votes)

Take the Points 3% (33 votes)

Jack Spratt 3% (37 votes)

Rocketing Returns <1% (6 votes)

Beethoven 15% (196 votes)

Break Water Edison 5% (69 votes)

Capt. Candyman Can 32% (417 votes)

Taqarub 9% (118 votes)

Quality Road 3% (43 votes)

This Ones for Phil 8% (100 votes)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I think Capt Candyman Can will be bet down to 5/2 or 2/1 or Beethoveen winds up around 6-1.

I'd be both stunned and aroused if this happened re: Candyman.

I'll buy you a beer at the Wood if TOFP is higher than 7/2. Low-risk proposition for me.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I doubt it. I can't see him higher than 7/2. Who's going to take significantly more money? Maybe Notonthesamepage ends up a slight favorite, but bettors won't let TOFP get away again. He's the horse to beat of course, but this is a murderous field, so I can't take anyone at less than 4-1.

You're right. This race is better than almost all of the BC races last year. I honestly can't remember a Graded Stakes race as interesting as this one in quite some time.