12 now likely for Big Cap

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What would the line and odds be for a Tiago vs Colonel John head to head matchup?

Col John -160
Tiago +140

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Col John -160
Tiago +140

I think they'll dead heat for fourth.

[mbahadur]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think they'll dead heat for fourth.

Tiago will get a little more pace then he did in his last race. I'd take him over Colonel John in a head-to-head bet.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by mbahadur

Tiago will get a little more pace then he did in his last race. I'd take him over Colonel John in a head-to-head bet.

The thing with Tiago is, he kinda stinks with or without a pace.

You probably are rooting for him because, I'm guessing, you used him in that TVG game.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The thing with Tiago is, he kinda stinks with or without a pace.

You probably are rooting for him because, I'm guessing, you used him in that TVG game.

The thing with Tiago is that he's a dirt horse that's never allowed to run on the dirt.

[letswastemoney]

It's Tiago vs. a field of turf horses!

I still hope Tiago wins!!

[mbahadur]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The thing with Tiago is, he kinda stinks with or without a pace.

You probably are rooting for him because, I'm guessing, you used him in that TVG game.

I got 4 of the horses slated to run in the Big Cap in my fantasy stable:

Tiago
Colonel John
Cowboy Cal
Court Vision

I probably should have spread out my stable better so that all my horses are not running in the same race.

The one horse I do not have in my stable who I think has a good shot to win is Einstein (Leparoux has been on fire lately).

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by mbahadur

The one horse I do not have in my stable who I think has a good shot to win is Einstein (Leparoux has been on fire lately).

And he is actually pretty accomplished on RD (real dirt); second to Curlin in a G1 at Churchill, winner of a G2 at Churchill, and a closing third in the recent Donn H, on a day when both big 9f races were fought out by the horses that were 1-2 all the way around the track.

Back in the good ol' days (geezer talk coming) lots of good horses ran on both turf and dirt and were top class on both. Kelso, Ack Ack, Cougar II, Exceller, John Henry, Perrault (won the Hollywood Gold Cup and Arlington Million in the same year), Greinton, ..., Einstein's dad Spend a Buck handled dirt just fine, you know.