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Old 02-25-2009, 08:16 PM
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Here's the past performances for Sharp Cat (who isn't even nominated) before she suffered a career ending injury... note all the 1's on her form.



Note at the bottom that she was the 2/1 favorite in the Santa Anita Derby - she hooked Silver Charm through crazy fast fractions and softened him up for Free House.

She was scary good in those four races in '98 as a 4yo after leaving the Lukas barn.

Finished her career 15-for-22 with earnings over $2 million and was a multiple Grade 1 winner in each year that she raced. Took 7 Grade 1's overall. Never won an eclispe.

Pretty good pinhook as well ... just an 82K Nov weanling ... she went for 900K at Barretts March as a 2yo. Actually won a Grade 2 stake in a walkover .. not exactly the type of filly you wanted to hook on a wet track.
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Old 02-25-2009, 08:37 PM
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Here's the past performances for Sharp Cat (who isn't even nominated) before she suffered a career ending injury... note all the 1's on her form.



Note at the bottom that she was the 2/1 favorite in the Santa Anita Derby - she hooked Silver Charm through crazy fast fractions and softened him up for Free House.

She was scary good in those four races in '98 as a 4yo after leaving the Lukas barn.

Finished her career 15-for-22 with earnings over $2 million and was a multiple Grade 1 winner in each year that she raced. Took 7 Grade 1's overall. Never won an eclispe.

Pretty good pinhook as well ... just an 82K Nov weanling ... she went for 900K at Barretts March as a 2yo. Actually won a Grade 2 stake in a walkover .. not exactly the type of filly you wanted to hook on a wet track.
Yet another Lukas superstar filly who has been incomprehensibly bad as a broodmare.
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Old 02-25-2009, 08:47 PM
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Yet another Lukas superstar filly who has been incomprehensibly bad as a broodmare.
I think that's a myth.
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Old 02-25-2009, 08:53 PM
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I think that's a myth.
Why don't you run the list?
I'd like to see it debunked, to be honest.
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Old 02-25-2009, 09:00 PM
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Why don't you run the list?
I'd like to see it debunked, to be honest.
Her offspring are actually undefeated..both foals to race are each 1-1.
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Old 02-25-2009, 09:03 PM
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yeah - they seemed to have inherited her soundness issues.
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Old 02-25-2009, 09:05 PM
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Why don't you run the list?
I'd like to see it debunked, to be honest.
We already went through this last year. I will copy-paste what I posted last year about it.

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He trained three champion females in the 90's:

Flanders: Dam of 4 time Grade 1 winner and $1.8 million earner Surfside.

Serena's Song: Dam of 5 stake horses including Group 1 winner Sophisticat and Grade 2 winners Harlington and Grand Reward.

Golden Attraction: Dam of a stakes winner - and two other horses who are Graded Stakes placed.

His champs in the 80's:

Althea: Dam of 4 different group or Graded Stakes winners.

Family Style: Dam of stakes winner Polish Style

Lady's Secret: Lousy producer in terms of quality - however several of her offspring sold very well.

Landaluce: Never made it into the shed

Life's Magic: Dam of three different horses who earned blacktype

Open Mind: She had problems - only two foals - one of which was 4-2-1-0 and made 300K in Japan

Sacahuista: Dam of Group 1 winning millionaire Ekaraar as well as productive race horse and stallion Hussonet

Winning Colors: Dam of millionaire acution purchase Golden Colors who was 3-for-10 and made over 500K in Japan. Several of hers also sold well - including a $2.5 million Broad Brush dud.

Lukas also trained the excellent top class race mare Terlingua in the early 80's - she was the dam of Storm Cat.
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Old 02-25-2009, 09:14 PM
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We already went through this last year. I will copy-paste what I posted last year about it.
Thanks- nice work. However, besides Flanders, Althea, and Serena's Song, it's a stretch to say any of the rest did much in the shed. He had so many great fillies... what about the ones like Sharp Cat who were tremendous, but never won a championship, and were just dreadful as producers?

Perhaps my expectations have been too high of them over the years as he really did train some tremendous fillies.
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:35 AM
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We already went through this last year. I will copy-paste what I posted last year about it.
An update about Lady's Secret: her daughter Good Looks that won about half a million got shipped to Japan as a yearling (by Mr. Prospector out of Lady's Secret and a grey filly, would've been fun to see here maybe) and she had a bay filly Kyowa Happiness who won a G3 stakes in Japan. Good Looks has a daughter Power of Love that's 9 by Sunday Silence. Geez talk about blueblood, sadly went 0-15. They went and bred her though to Silver Charm so just take that in, the who's who in the front of that pedigree. Her lone colt racing that I found, Leading Part, is 3 this year.

About Lukas gals in general, I'd count Azeri at age 6. We don't how good Vallenzeri is gonna be but he sure looks flashy. She did take a trip to Storm Cat and come up short. I'm sure they had Genuine Risk fears there but maybe it was just that SC was on the fertility decline.

I assume Azeri's gonna be on next year's ballot.
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