100-0 basketball game -- wrong or not?

Antitrust32 · #1 01-27-2009, 09:30 AM

poor sportsmanship, especially in high school where sports are not used just to play a game, but to learn life lessons and respect for others.

I'm glad the coach was fired.

witchdoctor · #2 01-27-2009, 10:35 AM

To bad they can't do what happened to us when I was in high school. We played a small Catholic school in Houston my senior year and beat them 132-28. The scrubs including me played almost the full game. The next year, the coach at the Catholic knew some missionaries in Africa and was able to arrange for 5 foreign exchange students to play for the Catholic school who also happened to play on the junior national teams in their homeland. Their frontline was 7 foot, 6'11'' and 6'8''. Needless to say, my alma mater got beat by over 100. All 5 of these player went on to play division 1 basketball.

Antitrust32 · #3 01-27-2009, 10:45 AM

from what I read... this coach had his girls shooting 3's, even in the 4th quarter, and running the full court press throughout the game. Was basically: steal, lay-up, steal, lay-up, steal, 3 pointer.

Its hard to score 100 points in four, 8 minute quarters. Horrible sportsmanship by the coach... deserved to be fired and was. You are not supposed to teach your high school kids to kick someone when they are down.

King Glorious · #4 01-27-2009, 10:52 AM

In my opinion, the problem is in the scheduling. It had to have been obvious before the game that there was a huge disparity in talent between the two teams so they shouldn't have even been matched up in the first place. If they matchup looked a little more even going in and certain circumstances (injuries, suspensions, etc) conspired to make it a mismatch, perhaps the best alternatives would have been to either call a forfeit before the game or concede at halftime. But you can't totally blame the coach of the winning team without knowing the way the game played out. As was noted, he only had eight players so at least two starters had to be on the court all game. Also, I'd like to know how all of their other games have gone this season. Do they play a bunch of tight games all year where he doesn't get a chance to use his bench much? How much do his reserves get to play and show what they can do? They probably work hard all year in practice and it's not fair to tell them they now get to play but all they can do is hold the ball and pass it around. Do you tell them not to take any open shots or to try to miss on purpose? Do you tell them not to play defense and to let the other team get some points? All of these things are even more unsportsmanlike in my opinion. Of course you don't want to be playing a pressing defense or looking to score on fast breaks at every opportunity. But you've also still got to play the game. Was this a game that could have been 50-0 and they kept pushing to make it 100-0 or was it a game that could have been 200-0 and they worked hard to keep it only 100-0?

ddthetide · #5 01-27-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

In my opinion, the problem is in the scheduling. It had to have been obvious before the game that there was a huge disparity in talent between the two teams so they shouldn't have even been matched up in the first place. If they matchup looked a little more even going in and certain circumstances (injuries, suspensions, etc) conspired to make it a mismatch, perhaps the best alternatives would have been to either call a forfeit before the game or concede at halftime. But you can't totally blame the coach of the winning team without knowing the way the game played out. As was noted, he only had eight players so at least two starters had to be on the court all game. Also, I'd like to know how all of their other games have gone this season. Do they play a bunch of tight games all year where he doesn't get a chance to use his bench much? How much do his reserves get to play and show what they can do? They probably work hard all year in practice and it's not fair to tell them they now get to play but all they can do is hold the ball and pass it around. Do you tell them not to take any open shots or to try to miss on purpose? Do you tell them not to play defense and to let the other team get some points? All of these things are even more unsportsmanlike in my opinion. Of course you don't want to be playing a pressing defense or looking to score on fast breaks at every opportunity. But you've also still got to play the game. Was this a game that could have been 50-0 and they kept pushing to make it 100-0 or was it a game that could have been 200-0 and they worked hard to keep it only 100-0?

all excellent points! sounds like the game should never have been played. to me it's more insulting to the bad team to have YOUR team clown around, then it is to crush them.

Antitrust32 · #6 01-27-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide

all excellent points! sounds like the game should never have been played. to me it's more insulting to the bad team to have YOUR team clown around, then it is to crush them.

thats is just totally incorrect in this case. The team that lost is a school for kids with learning disabilities. What the winning coach did was just wrong.

As for King's points about maybe 100-0 was taking it easy on them is complete BS. Its high school, they play short quarters. This team was shooting 3's and running the full court press after they were already up 59-0 at halftime.

It was a disgrace to high school athletics.

Antitrust32 · #7 01-27-2009, 01:26 PM

nobody should be taking the winning coach's side in this matter.

If he wasnt in the wrong, this wouldnt be a national story and the coach would still have his job.

ddthetide · #8 01-27-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

thats is just totally incorrect in this case. The team that lost is a school for kids with learning disabilities. What the winning coach did was just wrong.

As for King's points about maybe 100-0 was taking it easy on them is complete BS. Its high school, they play short quarters. This team was shooting 3's and running the full court press after they were already up 59-0 at halftime.

It was a disgrace to high school athletics.

then the 2 teams had NO business playing each other!

shooting 3's was better than lay-up drill. 3's lowers the shooting percentage.

i don't know what kind of high school you went to but the league we play in was as cut-throat as it got. 8 teams in the league and 5 teams would make the playoffs at 2 different classes in 2 states. we only lost 10 games in 4 years and 2 of those losses were the state semi's.

from what i've read there are differing accounts of the game, to call it a disgrace.

MaTH716 · #9 01-27-2009, 07:03 PM

It just seems that there are many guilty parties here.

1. The head coach of the losing team. For having them in a division or a leauge that they are not capable of competing in (I could be wrong here, I'm not sure of their record but just attempting 7 shots all game tell me they have no one to dribble the ball).

2. Leauge director or commish. For either letting the team play in the division. Not briefing other teams coaches about the nature of the team with the special needs. Maybe adapt some sort of mercy rules so game like this don't get out of hand again.

3. Obviously the other teams coach, for not calling the dogs off. At some point just have your guys stand in a stationary position andlet them score a few points.

4. Referees: when it's starting to get out of hand, call some fouls (even if they are phantom) to keep the other team from pressing. Also to get the other team to the line and maybe get a few points on the board.

It's easy just to blame the coach (he is the biggest culprit), but there are other people here that let these kids down too.

timmgirvan · #10 01-27-2009, 12:50 PM

unfortunately, they don't have a "mercy rule" in basketball.

King Glorious · #11 01-27-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cmfhb411

The parents of the Dallas Academy girls have the task of reassuring their kids
"you can achieve anything you set your mind on" accept aspiring to be
a starter for the Volunteers of Tennessee.

OK. All joking aside.

Any decent coach wouldn't have done what this guy did. Also......

Did anyone question why the losing coach just left his girls out there as long as he did ?

And what exactly did this guy do? I read the article and I don't know how the game went. Unless you know what it was that he did, you don't know what he didn't try to do. As I asked, was it a game that could have been only 50-0 and he instead pushed to make it 100-0 or it was a game that could have been 200-0 and he did all he could to keep it at "only" 100-0?

timmgirvan · #12 01-27-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

And what exactly did this guy do? I read the article and I don't know how the game went. Unless you know what it was that he did, you don't know what he didn't try to do. As I asked, was it a game that could have been only 50-0 and he instead pushed to make it 100-0 or it was a game that could have been 200-0 and he did all he could to keep it at "only" 100-0?

If he had a serious lead and still had a fullcourt press, then I think he did something wrong?

King Glorious · #13 01-27-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

If he had a serious lead and still had a fullcourt press, then I think he did something wrong?

The article said there were varying reports of the game and that one of them said they were only in a full court press for THREE minutes. Where do you get information saying otherwise?