Eclipse voting

[NTamm1215]

I want somebody to tell me how Adena won the Champion Owner award.

Say whatever you want about IEAH, complain about Iavarone, the way they buy horse, etc. but they had a huge year and compared to Stronach?

Did I miss some races throughout the year that Stronach won? I was absolutely dumbfounded at the result.

For what it's worth, I also thought Stonerside should have gotten the Champion Breeder award, but I'm horribly biased. I guess breeding Midshipman and Raven's Pass was not a big enough accomplishment.

NT

[10 pnt move up]

So who were the two voters who voted for Ginger Punch over Zenyatta, they should have their votes revoked.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

So who were the two voters who voted for Ginger Punch over Zenyatta, they should have their votes revoked.

How about the one who voted for Peppers Pride as HOTY?

NT

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

How about the one who voted for Peppers Pride as HOTY?

NT

That's it for me folks.....
I'm done with this sport.

[Stickhorse]

Originally Posted by miraja2

That's it for me folks.....
I'm done with this sport.

Talk about an over reaction!

[brockguy]

I might be wrong here, but I think the Cartier awards are based on something like 50% on points throughout the year in stakes races and 50% on fans/journalists votes, so if Curlin did win the Arc, he still probably wouldnt win the award.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Someone really voted for her as HOY? I give up...

http://www.drf.com/eclipse/2008/votes.html

Three people also voted for Bustin Stones as the champion older sprinter. Joe Rocco as outstanding jockey is another one of my favorites, as is Chamisa Goodwin as champion apprentice, and both Howard Wolfendale and Mike DeKock as champion trainer.

NT

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

http://www.drf.com/eclipse/2008/votes.html

Three people also voted for Bustin Stones as the champion older sprinter. Joe Rocco as outstanding jockey is another one of my favorites, as is Chamisa Goodwin as champion apprentice, and both Howard Wolfendale and Mike DeKock as champion trainer.

NT

I think Visionaire's one vote for sprinter and Albertus Maximus's vote for older horse take the cake...

[Nascar1966]

How could Conduit get Male Turf Horse Of The Year off of only one North American start? They should have some kind of rules like Canada has for thier version if im not mistaken isn't thier version called the Sovereign Awards?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

How could Conduit get Male Turf Horse Of The Year off of only one North American start? They should have some kind of rules like Canada has for thier version if im not mistaken isn't thier version called the Sovereign Awards?

I'll assume that you are a fairly new fan so I'll explain to you that horses winning the award off of only one NA start is hardly unprecedented. The list of such winners includes Miesque (twice), Arazi, Daylami, Johannesburgh, Ouija Board (twice), Kalanisi, Islington, Singspiel, and High Chaparral (twice). The interesting thing about Singspiel is that he never won a race in the United States during the year he won his award. He won a race in Canada and finished second in the BC but still won the award. The interesting thing about High Chaparral's second win is that he didn't even win his one race outright, finishing in a dead-heat with Johar in the BC yet still being voted as the NA champion. So having that in mind, you have your answer as to how Conduit could win the award. Whether you think it's fair or not or if you think the rules should be changed are a different discussion. Under the current rules, it's fair.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

How could Conduit get Male Turf Horse Of The Year off of only one North American start? They should have some kind of rules like Canada has for thier version if im not mistaken isn't thier version called the Sovereign Awards?

I had no problem with it. I might have voted for Einstein personally, but it's not like he was some dominating force. The male Turf HOY was a terrible division this year.

I'm just glad Forever Together won Female Turf.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think Visionaire's one vote for sprinter and Albertus Maximus's vote for older horse take the cake...

but Henrythenavigator NEVER ran on the turf in this country!?!? at least those two horses ran in the US.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

So who were the two voters who voted for Ginger Punch over Zenyatta, they should have their votes revoked.

They are probably the same people that didn't vote for Rickey Henderson.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

So who were the two voters who voted for Ginger Punch over Zenyatta, they should have their votes revoked.

They really should.

[jwkniska]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

For what it's worth, I also thought Stonerside should have gotten the Champion Breeder award. I guess breeding Midshipman and Raven's Pass was not a big enough accomplishment.

NT

You're absolutely correct and I agree with you 100% on that!