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Old 01-16-2009, 07:41 AM
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he's in an apartment guarded by the feds no one can get near him
I bet Jack Bauer could get to him...
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:11 AM
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it would be comical if it were not so sad. shapiro bought the brooklyn bridge from madoff. wow, great judgment investing millions in one guy, greed kills. he also bought into and sold the idea of the poly tracks in california. you know the ones a trainer called a mine field just last week. i would laugh if it had nothing to do with horse racing, but these are the fools that are running it into the ground! God help us all. santa anita has been changed so many times to the tune tens of millions $$$$, what a joke! does it surprise me that shapiro got taken? not really
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:25 AM
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it would be comical if it were not so sad. shapiro bought the brooklyn bridge from madoff. wow, great judgment investing millions in one guy, greed kills. he also bought into and sold the idea of the poly tracks in california. you know the ones a trainer called a mine field just last week. i would laugh if it had nothing to do with horse racing, but these are the fools that are running it into the ground! God help us all. santa anita has been changed so many times to the tune tens of millions $$$$, what a joke! does it surprise me that shapiro got taken? not really

Too bad that turkey Shapiro foisted the debacle of fake track on CA.
That is an example of the judgement of people running this sport. They are so far REMOVED from the reality of everyday life, that any shyster with a good story and "the right connections" can sell these dolts anything...including fake track.

Shapiro got what he deserved. And NOW, he wants a "bailout" from Congress? Of course. Shapiro, like all his "fellow turkeys", feel they are "entitled".
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:32 AM
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Too bad that turkey Shapiro foisted the debacle of fake track on CA.
That is an example of the judgement of people running this sport. They are so far REMOVED from the reality of everyday life, that any shyster with a good story and "the right connections" can sell these dolts anything...including fake track.

Shapiro got what he deserved. And NOW, he wants a "bailout" from Congress? Of course. Shapiro, like all his "fellow turkeys", feel they are "entitled".
I think it's a little harsh saying that a man who truly thought what he was doing was right, and that many other non dirt lovers still do, and then lost a life savings to a con artist..."Got what he deserved"...We're talking about a race track surface here, not a criminal act

And I do agree the bailout part is a bit much, although the tax adjustment seems like it might be reasonable. How can you pay taxes on profits that never existed?
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:23 AM
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I think it's a little harsh saying that a man who truly thought what he was doing was right, and that many other non dirt lovers still do, and then lost a life savings to a con artist..."Got what he deserved"...We're talking about a race track surface here, not a criminal act

And I do agree the bailout part is a bit much, although the tax adjustment seems like it might be reasonable. How can you pay taxes on profits that never existed?
thats the problem with this country, good intentions are crap if the person is an incompetant fool. when one is conned its partly their own fault (greed). i invest and i learned diversification in eco 101. are you telling me mr. shapiro is uneducated too? plus this whole society of "the person meant to do the right thing but made mistakes" bullsh^t is what got the whole country in the mess we are in!!!!! SEE 8 years of george bush and the current banking debacle!!! when they sold these synthetic tracks they saw this moron coming and going. bad judgment is BAD, no matter how kind you THINK you are. heres a new word for these folks and people that think like you, its called:ACCOUNTABILITY!!!! WHEN TRACKS THAT WERE SOLD ON SAFETY ARE CALLED GARBAGE AND MINEFIELDS BY THE TRAINERS, IT SHOULD BE CRIMINAL. especially after the surface has been changed numerous times and millions have been lost in revenue and costs.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:52 PM
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i think comparing shapiro to bush is a bit over the top. installing a surface you don't like means he deserves to lose his retirement to a crook? and i'd imagine you'll still find more in california who like the synthetic than trainers who do not.
they say honest people are the ones who get conned, as they expect everyone else to be honest. but you think it's partly his fault-did you learn that in eco 101?

gimme a break.
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