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Old 01-12-2009, 01:51 PM
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Ziggy...you're such a cynic!

you're the one going on and on about how he's a failure (and he hasn't even been sworn in yet) and I'M the cynic?!?! hilarity, thy name is timmi.
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Old 01-13-2009, 04:01 AM
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you're the one going on and on about how he's a failure (and he hasn't even been sworn in yet) and I'M the cynic?!?! hilarity, thy name is timmi.
you're putting words in my mouth....I didn't say he was a failure.
I didn't write the article, I just brought it to your attention.
The medias had a love-fest with this guy from the beginning. You should try grasping the context of the message rather a word, followed by a knee-jerk reaction.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:10 AM
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you're putting words in my mouth....I didn't say he was a failure. I didn't write the article, I just brought it to your attention.
The medias had a love-fest with this guy from the beginning. You should try grasping the context of the message rather a word, followed by a knee-jerk reaction.

"My exact point is that he raised the expectations so high with campaign rhetoric that it will be impossible to achieve what he promised."


apparently, i condensed what i was reading from you into one word-failure. but you didn't say he was one? but you did write the above....i would think, by reading that, you were suggesting he will fail.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:59 PM
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"My exact point is that he raised the expectations so high with campaign rhetoric that it will be impossible to achieve what he promised."


apparently, i condensed what i was reading from you into one word-failure. but you didn't say he was one? but you did write the above....i would think, by reading that, you were suggesting he will fail.
What I'm saying is that he either knew his positions were untenable, or had bad info. Shortly after his election, he and the media said he'd need 2 terms to fix the problems. Standard Demcratic response....hell, I didn't know...
that is not a change.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:10 PM
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What I'm saying is that he either knew his positions were untenable, or had bad info. Shortly after his election, he and the media said he'd need 2 terms to fix the problems. Standard Demcratic response....hell, I didn't know...
that is not a change.

it was shortly before the end of the presidential race that the poo hit the fan. the 'stimulus' package they pushed thru back last spring only delayed the inevitable. when the economy started tanking, he started talking about the realities of the situation, rather than what he wanted to push thru-it was back last summer that he first said he didn't see raising cap gains taxes as happening.
i know where i work, i make plans-and hell, everything works out perfect on paper. but you also have to be able to handle things that come up spur of the moment, you have to roll with the punches-either that, or you're denying what's right in your face. it's no surprise to me that he is saying economy FIRST. you're taking that to mean economy only.
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