NFL overtime rule

[Bigsmc]

Total no. of overtime games (1974–2003) 365
Both teams had at least one possession 261 (72 %)
Team won toss and won game 189 (52 %)
Team lost toss and won game 160 (44 %)
Team won toss and drove for winning score 102 (28 %)
Games ending in a tie 15 (5 %)

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_11_08_04.html

[dalakhani]

I like Mitch Albom's take on sports reporters this morning regarding this subject. Why dont they simply take the "sudden death" part out of the equation? Let them play a whole quarter and whoever has the lead at the end of the quarter wins. If no one has the lead, let them play another quarter.

Whats wrong with doing it that way?

[ateamstupid]

Cry me a river. If your defense can't get a stop, you lose. This "everybody gets a chance" bullshit is absurd. This isn't Little League. Get a stop or go home. The shitty Pats couldn't stop old man Favre on 3rd & 15 and the Colts committed THREE asinine penalties that screwed them over. I'm supposed to feel sorry for these two teams.

You think the Eagles would've lost today if they'd lost a coin toss in overtime? I don't, because they have a competent defense.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Cry me a river. If your defense can't get a stop, you lose. This "everybody gets a chance" bullshit is absurd. This isn't Little League. Get a stop or go home. The shitty Pats couldn't stop old man Favre on 3rd & 15 and the Colts committed THREE asinine penalties that screwed them over. I'm supposed to feel sorry for these two teams.

You think the Eagles would've lost today if they'd lost a coin toss in overtime? I don't, because they have a competent defense.

wow, we agree on something

sorry

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Cry me a river. If your defense can't get a stop, you lose. This "everybody gets a chance" bullshit is absurd. This isn't Little League. Get a stop or go home. The shitty Pats couldn't stop old man Favre on 3rd & 15 and the Colts committed THREE asinine penalties that screwed them over. I'm supposed to feel sorry for these two teams.

You think the Eagles would've lost today if they'd lost a coin toss in overtime? I don't, because they have a competent defense.

[VOL JACK]

I think the extra quarter, is the best idea I have heard. I think 10 minutes would suffice instead of the usual 15.

[hi_im_god]

why can't they do like in soccer and have a kickoff? just have the field goal teams line up on the 45 yard line and fire away 5-10 times. whomever gets the most wins.

i think everyone can agree that's a fair way to resolve things.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

why can't they do like in soccer and have a kickoff? just have the field goal teams line up on the 45 yard line and fire away 5-10 times. whomever gets the most wins.

i think everyone can agree that's a fair way to resolve things.

I dont know why they dont just start every soccer game that way. The rest is just a bunch of skinny dudes in high socks running around.

[joeydb]

No overtime game should come down to a coin toss. Each team should be given one possession in the overtime. After that -- sudden death.

Just like college rules. They used to say the same things about the two point conversion, with regard to not adopting it for the pros. I think most would agree that the two point conversion has added depth to the game.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by joeydb

No overtime game should come down to a coin toss. Each team should be given one possession in the overtime. After that -- sudden death.

Just like college rules. They used to say the same things about the two point conversion, with regard to not adopting it for the pros. I think most would agree that the two point conversion has added depth to the game.

It doesn't come down to a coin toss. It comes down to whether or not your defense can get a clutch stop. Saying that it comes down to a coin toss is completely letting defenses off the hook for failing.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by joeydb

No overtime game should come down to a coin toss. Each team should be given one possession in the overtime. After that -- sudden death.
Just like college rules. They used to say the same things about the two point conversion, with regard to not adopting it for the pros. I think most would agree that the two point conversion has added depth to the game.

So if they both score, it's goes back to a coin flip? Then it's the same thing as regular OT now. That makes no sense. There is nothing wrong with the system they have now.
And as far as Joey Eagles competent defense quote before, it wasn't the Giants D that lost them that game today.,

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

So if they both score, it's goes back to a coin flip? Then it's the same thing as regular OT now. That makes no sense. There is nothing wrong with the system they have now.
And as far as Joey Eagles competent defense quote before, it wasn't the Giants D that lost them that game today.,

I didn't say it was.. It's just that the Eagles are playing the best defense in the league now, including the Ravens.

[kenny p]

Don't change a thing. If you can't get it done in 60 mins. then too bad if you lose in OT. It's the shills like Jim Nance who are pushing for this. TV has already pretty much ruined sports, don't let them ruin it more. KP

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kenny p

Don't change a thing. If you can't get it done in 60 mins. then too bad if you lose in OT. It's the shills like Jim Nance who are pushing for this. TV has already pretty much ruined sports, don't let them ruin it more. KP

altho i don't care for all the commercial breaks, i still think football is better viewed on t.v. than live-replay and camera angles, etc, so you never miss a thing...

now hockey on the other hand....best viewed live.

[herkhorse]

instead of the coin toss, how about a little rugby style scrum to see who gets the ball

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Total no. of overtime games (1974–2003) 365
Both teams had at least one possession 261 (72 %)
Team won toss and won game 189 (52 %)
Team lost toss and won game 160 (44 %)
Team won toss and drove for winning score 102 (28 %)
Games ending in a tie 15 (5 %)

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_11_08_04.html

I'm going to bring this back and side with ateam and horseofcourse.

There is absolutely nothing that should be changed about overtime. If you lose the toss, make them go three and out or force a turnover. If a team gets the ball first, drives right over the defense and scores, they deserve to win.

The only thing they should change about overtime is informing all of the players, especially QB's, that the game CAN end in a tie.

[Danzig]

but antitrust...let's say you're driving, but run out of time-you just needed a few more years, you could kick the ball and win with a field goal. but the buzzer sounds. you lose the toss, the other teams gets the ball, gets a run back, and gets close enough for a field goal-bam, they win. but you had the ball last-they weren't stopping you, the clock stopped you. but because the fifth quarter starts with a coin toss, you don't get to remain on offense....perhaps, instead of stopping play completely, having a coin toss and kickoff, they should just keep going from where the fourth quarter ended...
i understand that both sides of the team have to play, but i also can see where people want the OT rules tweaked.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but antitrust...let's say you're driving, but run out of time-you just needed a few more years, you could kick the ball and win with a field goal. but the buzzer sounds. you lose the toss, the other teams gets the ball, gets a run back, and gets close enough for a field goal-bam, they win. but you had the ball last-they weren't stopping you, the clock stopped you. but because the fifth quarter starts with a coin toss, you don't get to remain on offense....perhaps, instead of stopping play completely, having a coin toss and kickoff, they should just keep going from where the fourth quarter ended...
i understand that both sides of the team have to play, but i also can see where people want the OT rules tweaked.

that is no excuse Zig.. if the clock runs out the clock runs out.. doesnt matter where you are. That is why there are two minute drills, and clock and time-out management. 60 minutes is up, you toss a coin and go to sudden death.

Regarding the situation you just laid out.. Can you imagine if a team was driving at the end of the game with the score tied "Dont worry fella's, we dont need to score here! No need to rush!" Its silly really.

Each team has a 50/50 chance of winning the coin toss. It is very fair. Each team has a defense who is supposed to keep the other team from putting points on the board. You either get the job done or you dont!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but antitrust...let's say you're driving, but run out of time-you just needed a few more years, you could kick the ball and win with a field goal. but the buzzer sounds. you lose the toss, the other teams gets the ball, gets a run back, and gets close enough for a field goal-bam, they win. but you had the ball last-they weren't stopping you, the clock stopped you. but because the fifth quarter starts with a coin toss, you don't get to remain on offense....perhaps, instead of stopping play completely, having a coin toss and kickoff, they should just keep going from where the fourth quarter ended...
i understand that both sides of the team have to play, but i also can see where people want the OT rules tweaked.

This is nonsense. If the clock runs out on you, it's your fault, not the fault of the clock. Either save some timeouts, manage the clock better or try for more yards per play. More excuses for ineptitude. No team is owed anything. Either find a way to score before the buzzer or sit down.

If overtime was the way you suggested, it would completely eliminate the two-minute drill in a tie game. Another way to make the game longer and more boring.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but antitrust...let's say you're driving, but run out of time-you just needed a few more years, you could kick the ball and win with a field goal. but the buzzer sounds. you lose the toss, the other teams gets the ball, gets a run back, and gets close enough for a field goal-bam, they win. but you had the ball last-they weren't stopping you, the clock stopped you. but because the fifth quarter starts with a coin toss, you don't get to remain on offense....perhaps, instead of stopping play completely, having a coin toss and kickoff, they should just keep going from where the fourth quarter ended...
i understand that both sides of the team have to play, but i also can see where people want the OT rules tweaked.

also to add to my post 53... why would you reward a team that failed to score before time expired?