If Philly and SD both win...

The Indomitable DrugS · #1 01-11-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mark2061mn

As for AZ and SD not belonging in the playoffs, they both beat teams that "supposedly" did belong. If they didn't belong then they both should have been beaten last week and AZ again this week.

It's not so much that they didn't belong ... which they didn't by the way ... as it is that they both might be AT HOME in conference championship.

Teams should be seeded 1 through 6 on the same critera. I have no huge problem with giving an 8-8 division winner a playoff spot..but make them the 6th seed...and don't award them with home games.

Danzig · #2 01-11-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's not so much that they didn't belong ... which they didn't by the way ... as it is that they both might be AT HOME in conference championship.

Teams should be seeded 1 through 6 on the same critera. I have no huge problem with giving an 8-8 division winner a playoff spot..but make them the 6th seed...and don't award them with home games.

bad enough they get in, but indy had to travel to them?! preposterous. no way, just because you win your division, that they should have gotten home field advantage.

also-no reason the giants, who presumably are #1 seed, should fave the eagles. of course, carolina losing last night doesn't indicate that the cardinals would have been a cakewalk....but there was no benefit for being the first seed in the nfc this year.

mark2061mn · #3 01-11-2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

bad enough they get in, but indy had to travel to them?! preposterous. no way, just because you win your division, that they should have gotten home field advantage.

also-no reason the giants, who presumably are #1 seed, should fave the eagles. of course, carolina losing last night doesn't indicate that the cardinals would have been a cakewalk....but there was no benefit for being the first seed in the nfc this year.

Exactly, seeding really means nothing. You have to play the games and beat the teams to advance. Any team can beat anyone no matter seedings or whether they play home or away.

The Giants would have to play someone "good" eventually and need to win to advance, their just doing it this week instead of next or maybe not if AZ plays next week like they played last night.

Oh, the Giants didn't need the #1 seed to win the Super Bowl last year. It just doesn't matter, if you are good enough you should win, if not you go home.

mark2061mn · #4 01-11-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's not so much that they didn't belong ... which they didn't by the way ... as it is that they both might be AT HOME in conference championship.

Teams should be seeded 1 through 6 on the same critera. I have no huge problem with giving an 8-8 division winner a playoff spot..but make them the 6th seed...and don't award them with home games.

I hear you on the home field thing but you would have to do away with the divisions then. There would be no incentive to winning your division if you did not get home field advantage. Because if you had divisions and then reseeded, Miami and Minnesota who won their division would not have had home field advantage because their record was only 1 game worse than Indy and Atl who did not win their division.

I can see your point when talking an 8-8 team compared to a 11-5 team but not when it is only a 1 game difference.

And SD is not your typical 8-8 team. they lost 3 games within the last 30 seconds of those games, 1 against Indy and Caroline both 12-4 teams and got robbed at Denver.

AeWingnut · #5 01-11-2009, 10:35 AM

Dungee is/was on the rule committee and everytime he loses a game there is a new rule.

Bert Emanuel doesn't catch a pass now it's considered a catch
Rams celebrate with more than one player and now there is a rule against that (selectively enforced)

Patriots hold the Colts receivers and now you are supposed to do that any more

I imagine since Indy had to travel to San Diego and choke
there will be a new rule hat teams with better records get to host

btw

There should be * next to all of the Patriots SB wins

they cheated

I hope the Eagles win today so the AZ Cardinals w/ Kurt Warner can host the NFC Championship game.

CSC · #6 01-11-2009, 10:42 AM

Rather than concentrating on whether San Diego was 8-8 for the year and if they deserve to be a playoff team, why not look at their record in the last 5 games which is 5-0.

The Indomitable DrugS · #7 01-11-2009, 10:46 AM

or why not look at their regular season record against playoff teams ... which was 0-5.

Yeah, I know, they did win a wild card game in OT over the superior 12-4 Colts solely because of home field advantage.

Home field advantage is worth atleast a field goal in the playoffs. Would the game have been a pickem against the spread if Indy .. who had won like 8 in a row .. was at home in the loud ass dome?

mark2061mn · #8 01-11-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

or why not look at their regular season record against playoff teams ... which was 0-5.

Yeah, I know, they did win a wild card game in OT over the superior 12-4 Colts solely because of home field advantage.

Home field advantage is worth atleast a field goal in the playoffs. Would the game have been a pickem against the spread if Indy .. who had won like 8 in a row .. was at home in the loud ass dome?

San Diego beat Indy last year in the playoffs AT Indy, it doesn't matter whether you are home or away, if you are a better team you win. If Indy was superior they should have won, they weren't.

The Indomitable DrugS · #9 01-11-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mark2061mn

it doesn't matter whether you are home or away, if you are a better team you win. If Indy was superior they should have won, they weren't.

Yes ... and if Vegas ever had you making their lines ... with your home field is worthless stance ... football would be a hell of a lot easier game to beat.

CSC · #10 01-11-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

or why not look at their regular season record against playoff teams ... which was 0-5.

Yeah, I know, they did win a wild card game in OT over the superior 12-4 Colts solely because of home field advantage.

Home field advantage is worth atleast a field goal in the playoffs. Would the game have been a pickem against the spread if Indy .. who had won like 8 in a row .. was at home in the loud ass dome?

I can almost hear the recycled "we against the world" pregame speech by Norv...recycled but effective.

The Indomitable DrugS · #11 01-11-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mark2061mn

I hear you on the home field thing but you would have to do away with the divisions then.

No you wouldn't.

San Diego still would have got in by winning their divisions as the #6 seed - over the 11-5 Pats and 10-6 Jets.

Also ... teams would have to play harder at the end. For instance .. a team who wraps up their division, but can't quite make a two seed, will have to go all out to ensure a home game .. as they might have the 5th best confrence record.

King Glorious · #12 01-11-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's not so much that they didn't belong ... which they didn't by the way ... as it is that they both might be AT HOME in conference championship.

Teams should be seeded 1 through 6 on the same critera. I have no huge problem with giving an 8-8 division winner a playoff spot..but make them the 6th seed...and don't award them with home games.

I agree with Mark that if they both win two playoff games, one being at the home field of the #2 seed after traveling back East, it's hard to argue that they didn't belong. The thing is that circumstances often lead to records. SD was a team that lost it's best defensive player, had one of the all-time running backs playing injured all season, had the best tight end in the game playing hurt for a while and lost some pretty tough games during the season. In reality, they have been playing playoff football for the past six or seven games because a loss in any of them would have eliminated them. They belong. Arizona does too. It's not their fault that they play in a division that is weaker than baby piss. You might say they took off in the past couple of weeks in the regular season but that's because they could. They were guaranteed a playoff spot an their position was pretty much locked in.

I partly agree with Drugs too. I don't think that making them the sixth seed is the thing to do. Do like the NBA. Seed the division winners as 1-2-3-4....but have the playing site of all matchups decided by best record.