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Old 01-06-2009, 11:40 PM
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or, you could look at our aid to the afgans as one tool in our fight to win the cold war. you do know we won that, right?
We didn't need to give aid to Afghanistan and we still would have won the cold war. Afghanistan is impossible to take over.

Go watch a movie like Charlie Wilson's War and you will see how the US never wanted the Afghans to win the war, they just wanted the Russians bogged down there.

And you still don't address the fact that our aid to Afghanistan created the Taliban. I guess you just like to look past that part.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:44 PM
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We didn't need to give aid to Afghanistan and we still would have won the cold war. Afghanistan is impossible to take over.

Go watch a movie like Charlie Wilson's War and you will see how the US never wanted the Afghans to win the war, they just wanted the Russians bogged down there.

And you still don't address the fact that our aid to Afghanistan created the Taliban. I guess you just like to look past that part.
you're barking up the wrong tree if you think i will go watch a movie to get an actual, usable history lesson. do you think the movie jfk was real too? and i would disagree that we didn't need to give aid. if the ussr was for something, generally it would be bad for the u.s. you do remember that we were their sworn enemy?
we also backed iraq when they fought iran-that probably gives you the heebie-jeebies just thinking about it.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:47 PM
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you're barking up the wrong tree if you think i will go watch a movie to get an actual, usable history lesson. do you think the movie jfk was real too? and i would disagree that we didn't need to give aid. if the ussr was for something, generally it would be bad for the u.s. you do remember that we were their sworn enemy?
we also backed iraq when they fought iran-that probably gives you the heebie-jeebies just thinking about it.
The US built up Saddam. And thousands of members of the military died in a pointless war to get rid of him.

I love all you people who have nobody in the military in your family that love to use the military like it is your little game of chess.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:48 PM
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The US built up Saddam. And thousands of members of the military died in a pointless war to get rid of him.

I love all you people who have nobody in the military in your family that love to use the military like it is your little game of chess.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:50 PM
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The US built up Saddam. And thousands of members of the military died in a pointless war to get rid of him.

I love all you people who have nobody in the military in your family that love to use the military like it is your little game of chess.
yes, we did help saddam. it probably kept iran-no, it did keep iran from becoming a threat all those years ago-the threat it's trying to become now. i disagree with what gb2 did-removing saddam strengthened iran, in that respect it was a huge mistake. hopefully oil prices will remain low-as without that resource, iran can't afford to back up their rhetoric.
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The US built up Saddam. And thousands of members of the military died in a pointless war to get rid of him.
I don't think it was pointless to get rid of him, but I don't know if we should of been the ones doing it(especially the way it was sold to us.) I totally disagreed with us staying there, and trying to put bibs on people acting like savages. Now that was indeed a pointless waste of American lives. That's what happens when a guy is stupid enough to think everybody wants freedom. They don't. They want hardcore religion and/or hardcore ruthless leaders. That's why they can't wait for us to get the hell out. We don't satisfy their needs.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:46 PM
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We didn't need to give aid to Afghanistan and we still would have won the cold war. Afghanistan is impossible to take over.

Go watch a movie like Charlie Wilson's War and you will see how the US never wanted the Afghans to win the war, they just wanted the Russians bogged down there.

And you still don't address the fact that our aid to Afghanistan created the Taliban. I guess you just like to look past that part.
Kind of like you and my question of what we are to do as a country if and when the Israelis and Palestinians blow each other off the map??

Sit back and finish off our cheddar fries?
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:50 PM
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Kind of like you and my question of what we are to do as a country if and when the Israelis and Palestinians blow each other off the map??

Sit back and finish off our cheddar fries?
I will gladly answer your question. We would do nothing. It is not our problem. We didn't have a problem watching millions in Africa kill each other. Why should we care about these two countries blowing each other up. The history of the world is full of things that this happening. It is natural selection. The crazy people perish eventually because they refuse to evolve. And countries based on religion are just that, crazy.

Now answer my question.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:52 PM
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I will gladly answer your question. We would do nothing. It is not our problem. We didn't have a problem watching millions in Africa kill each other. Why should we care about these two countries blowing each other up. The history of the world is full of things that this happening. It is natural selection. The crazy people perish eventually because they refuse to evolve. And countries based on religion are just that, crazy.

Now answer my question.
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We didn't need to give aid to Afghanistan and we still would have won the cold war. Afghanistan is impossible to take over.

Go watch a movie like Charlie Wilson's War and you will see how the US never wanted the Afghans to win the war, they just wanted the Russians bogged down there.

And you still don't address the fact that our aid to Afghanistan created the Taliban. I guess you just like to look past that part.
I suppose our aid to Iraq created Saddam and our aid to Iran created the ayatollahs too?
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