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Old 01-06-2009, 11:16 PM
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I don't really care what Israel does. It isn't America. They can defend themselves. I never understood why they were such wimps and let these crazy people constantly terrorize them. But the fact is they are not as crazy as the Arabs, but they are pretty close.

They aren't like the Arabs. My guess is Israeli men get arrested for beating their wife up, but it's a guess. I haven't heard Israelis suggest that Arab countries should be wiped off the face of the Earth. As you can see, when rockets are shot into Israel, the Arabs (who shot them) target Kindergarten Schools etc. (not troops in particular.) They often fail to kill kids because the kids are kept home in bomb shelters that each Israeli house seems to have. Israeli soldiers are out away from other citizens. Compare that to Hamas members that surround themselves with women and children, and then claim Iraelis target civilians. Evidently, the people of Gaza voted for Hamas. They are quiet when Hamas shoots rockets into another country, but it's a different story when those bombs come right back at Hamas members. Arabs kill each other all the time, and it's only when they are harmed by Israelis that human life seems all that important to them. Same with other Muslims. Turks and Kurds kill each other all the time, and are proud of it. Soon as Israel started going after their fellow Muslims( Hamas members,) the leader of Turkey brought out the crime against humanity line.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:19 PM
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They aren't like the Arabs. My guess is Israeli men get arrested for beating their wife up, but it's a guess. I haven't heard Israelis suggest that Arab countries should be wiped off the face of the Earth. As you can see, when rockets are shot into Israel, the Arabs (who shot them) target Kindergarten Schools etc. (not troops in particular.) They often fail to kill kids because the kids are kept home in bomb shelters that each Israeli house seems to have. Israeli soldiers are out away from other citizens. Compare that to Hamas members that surround themselves with woman and children, and then claim Iraelis target civilians. Evidently, the people of Gaza voted for Hamas. They are quiet when Hamas shoots rockets into another country, but it's a different story when those bombs come right back at Hamas members. I don't think the Israelis are like the Arabs. Arabs kill each other all the time, and it's only when they are harmed by Israelis that human life seems all that important to them. Same with other Muslims. Turks and Kurds kill each other all the time, and are proud of it. Soon as Israel started going after their fellow Muslims( Hamas members,) the leader of Turkey brought out the crime against humanity line.
Great. So they should raise their taxes and pay for the military they need to protect them. This is not my problem or any taxpayer in americas problem.

Why should I be paying higher taxes so Israelis and Egyptians can pay lower taxes?

We have a situation where some working class americans are paying taxes to give aid to countries like Israel and Egypt, and there are plenty of wealthy people in their countries living better lives than working class americans. Let their people buy their own weapons. Not my problem.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:39 PM
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Great. So they should raise their taxes and pay for the military they need to protect them. This is not my problem or any taxpayer in americas problem.

Why should I be paying higher taxes so Israelis and Egyptians can pay lower taxes?

We have a situation where some working class americans are paying taxes to give aid to countries like Israel and Egypt, and there are plenty of wealthy people in their countries living better lives than working class americans. Let their people buy their own weapons. Not my problem.
Well, the Saudis are raising money all the time to give to those willing to destroy Israel. Are we supposed to sit back like the world did when the Nazis killed all those Jews for being of a specific race? Would you have been willing to fight to stop that from taking place? They don't want you to, but I think a little help for actual friends is money well spent. Whether we like it or not, we have a common enemy(Islam is not a friend of those who value freedom.)
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:41 PM
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Well, the Saudis are raising money all the time to give to those willing to destroy Israel. Are we supposed to sit back like the world did when the Nazis killed all those Jews for being of a specific race? Would you have been willing to fight to stop that from taking place? They don't want you to, but I think a little help for actual friends is money well spent. Whether we like it or not, we have a common enemy(Islam is not a friend of those who value freedom.)
yep, apparently that's exactly what we're supposed to do. same as in darfur, has nothing to do with us. or somalia, bosnia, etc....
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:44 PM
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yep, apparently that's exactly what we're supposed to do. same as in darfur, has nothing to do with us. or somalia, bosnia, etc....
Oh yes. Let me guess, you wanted to send people like my brother to go fight in crazy African countries, but I am going to guess you never joined the military to go help.

Give me a break. All that happens when you help these crazy people is good american men and women who serve their country get killed for nothing.

Darfur is not an American problem. It is an African problem.

Please explain to me what America is supposed to do. I love all you people with all the ideas but with no solutions.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:47 PM
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Oh yes. Let me guess, you wanted to send people like my brother to go fight in crazy African countries, but I am going to guess you never joined the military to go help.

Give me a break. All that happens when you help these crazy people is good american men and women who serve their country get killed for nothing.

Darfur is not an American problem. It is an African problem.

Please explain to me what America is supposed to do. I love all you people with all the ideas but with no solutions.
so glad you pay attention. my husband and i are both navy veterans, and my son is currently a sailor-he just re-enlisted. my other son is also probably going in-he wants to get an appointment to the naval academy. what branch of the military are/were you in?
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:52 PM
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so glad you pay attention. my husband and i are both navy veterans, and my son is currently a sailor-he just re-enlisted. my other son is also probably going in-he wants to get an appointment to the naval academy. what branch of the military are/were you in?
Great. He can stay on his little ship while my brother fights the wars. My brother is technically part of the navy too, but he is part of the navy that fights the wars, they are called Marines.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:52 PM
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Oh yes. Let me guess, you wanted to send people like my brother to go fight in crazy African countries, but I am going to guess you never joined the military to go help.

Give me a break. All that happens when you help these crazy people is good american men and women who serve their country get killed for nothing.

Darfur is not an American problem. It is an African problem.

Please explain to me what America is supposed to do. I love all you people with all the ideas but with no solutions.
people who join the Army become soldiers. A soldiers job is dangerous. I have yet to see a single idea from any of your ranting.
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