Mock draft theory

ddthetide · #1 01-06-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

darren if he is that good and would be a top 5 pick he would be crazy not to go. I dont believe that he was coming back if he was going to be a top 5 pick, it makes no sense.

i don't disagree with you but i heard he was coming back. My Opinion, he should come back. i think he's still abit over-weight and could use another year of strength, conditioning and work on his technique. he lost his whole freshman season to the shula staff.

SniperSB23 · #2 01-06-2009, 01:41 PM

Oh, and when could the next labor agreement potentially be put in place between the player's union and the owners? Both sides seem to want to curb the amount of money that high draft picks are getting and redistribute it to proven players so that seems something that will surely be implemented in the next labor agreement. If there is any chance that deal could go into effect for next year's draft then you absolutely need to come out now and take the huge payday. Plus when you are #1 one year there is no guarantee you will be the next year. Other QBs could move ahead of him. Remember Leinart? Had he left early and gone #1 as many projected he would instead of Alex Smith then he'd have collected another $10 million in signing bonus plus a lot more over the annual salaries he got the next year as the #10 pick.

GBBob · #3 01-06-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Oh, and when could the next labor agreement potentially be put in place between the player's union and the owners? Both sides seem to want to curb the amount of money that high draft picks are getting and redistribute it to proven players so that seems something that will surely be implemented in the next labor agreement. If there is any chance that deal could go into effect for next year's draft then you absolutely need to come out now and take the huge payday. Plus when you are #1 one year there is no guarantee you will be the next year. Other QBs could move ahead of him. Remember Leinart? Had he left early and gone #1 as many projected he would instead of Alex Smith then he'd have collected another $10 million in signing bonus plus a lot more over the annual salaries he got the next year as the #10 pick.

The owner's opted out of the current agreement so 2011 is the first year there could be a lock-out. Next year is "as is", but 2010 is a little more uncertain. And yes, one of the main reasons they opted out was the disproportionate amount of money going to rookies vs vets

SniperSB23 · #4 01-06-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

The owner's opted out of the current agreement so 2011 is the first year there could be a lock-out. Next year is "as is", but 2010 is a little more uncertain. And yes, one of the main reasons they opted out was the disproportionate amount of money going to rookies vs vets

Is 2010 the year that could potentially be uncapped? If so it would seem there is potential for an agreement to take place starting that season which might include the 2010 draft.

Also, I forgot that the Lions have 4 of the top 65 picks in the draft thanks to Dallas taking Roy Williams off their hands. Detroit would really not be a bad spot to be drafted #1 assuming they address the O-line through the draft and free agency to protect their new franchise QB.

GBBob · #5 01-06-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Is 2010 the year that could potentially be uncapped? If so it would seem there is potential for an agreement to take place starting that season which might include the 2010 draft.

Also, I forgot that the Lions have 4 of the top 65 picks in the draft thanks to Dallas taking Roy Williams off their hands. Detroit would really not be a bad spot to be drafted #1 assuming they address the O-line through the draft and free agency to protect their new franchise QB.

That's the key to this, but I don't know without searching more. Just remembered the basics because GB lives and dies by a cap and it's a real concern up there.

Cannon Shell · #6 01-06-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Is 2010 the year that could potentially be uncapped? If so it would seem there is potential for an agreement to take place starting that season which might include the 2010 draft.

Also, I forgot that the Lions have 4 of the top 65 picks in the draft thanks to Dallas taking Roy Williams off their hands. Detroit would really not be a bad spot to be drafted #1 assuming they address the O-line through the draft and free agency to protect their new franchise QB.

Millen may be gone but they havent brought anyone else in and arent going to. There is almost no chance they dont screw up this draft. The Lions have never been good in my lifetime and I'm gettin up there.

Cannon Shell · #7 01-06-2009, 02:21 PM

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ay-thoughts-5/

declansharbor · #8 01-06-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Millen may be gone but they havent brought anyone else in and arent going to. There is almost no chance they dont screw up this draft. The Lions have never been good in my lifetime and I'm gettin up there.

Woah, woah... 1995

...First time ever that a team has 2 players finish with 100+ receptions. (Herm Moore (123) and Brett Perriman(109), I think)

Shall we even get into the "If Barry had Emmitt's Oline debate"?

Lomas Brown's gaurantee of a playoff win over Philly and Ray Rhodes retort is my fondest memory from that team.

Cannon Shell · #9 01-06-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

Woah, woah... 1995

...First time ever that a team has 2 players finish with 100+ receptions. (Herm Moore (123) and Brett Perriman(109), I think)

Shall we even get into the "If Barry had Emmitt's Oline debate"?

Lomas Brown's gaurantee of a win over Philly and Ray Rhodes retort is my fondest memory from that team.

Ok let me rephrase, they have never been a serious playoff team with a prayer of winning let alone reaching the Super bowl in my lifetime.

SniperSB23 · #10 01-06-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

Woah, woah... 1995

...First time ever that a team has 2 players finish with 100+ receptions. (Herm Moore (123) and Brett Perriman(109), I think)

Shall we even get into the "If Barry had Emmitt's Oline debate"?

Lomas Brown's gaurantee of a playoff win over Philly and Ray Rhodes retort is my fondest memory from that team.

Barry's lines were underrated. He had two Pro Bowl caliber lineman almost every year in Lomas Brown (7 Pro Bowls) and Kevin Glover (3 Pro Bowls). The whole idea that Barry's lines weren't good comes about because he had so many runs for negative yards but that wasn't because of the lines, it was cause of his style of running. The Cowboys line was amazing but wouldn't have made Sanders much better. Any Emmitt style runner though would have significantly improved behind the Dallas line.

ddthetide · #11 01-06-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Millen may be gone but they havent brought anyone else in and arent going to. There is almost no chance they dont screw up this draft. The Lions have never been good in my lifetime and I'm gettin up there.

never remember the lions being this bad. 500 at best but never this bad.

Cannon Shell · #12 01-06-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide

i don't disagree with you but i heard he was coming back. My Opinion, he should come back. i think he's still abit over-weight and could use another year of strength, conditioning and work on his technique. he lost his whole freshman season to the shula staff.

If he is a top 5 pick he has to go simply because the contract slots for those guys are so big he couldnt risk getting hurt or playing poorly the next season. there is no upside to staying.