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Old 01-05-2009, 09:52 AM
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I agree. Go to Vegas at least once/year and always spend at least the last day I'm there in the racebook (perfect way to kill some time until you need to go to the airport).

One of these days someone's going to find out that the more places that have a signal, the more $$ that's bet on the track, the more the track gets in takeout from it, and the more they'll put back into purses for the horsemen. Should be an everyone wins situation... but that's me trying to make sense out of it.
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Old 01-05-2009, 11:30 AM
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Could the casinos and other on-line outlets.start promoting and feature Euro, Hong Kong. and quality Australian racing. Im sure this is not the solution but would this get Magna and Twin Spires attention?
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Old 01-05-2009, 04:14 PM
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Could the casinos and other on-line outlets.start promoting and feature Euro, Hong Kong. and quality Australian racing. Im sure this is not the solution but would this get Magna and Twin Spires attention?
How many Americans are hooked on that(Euro, Hong Kong. and quality Australian racing.) People have to have done well at something to get hooked.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:07 AM
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http://news.bloodhorse.com/article/48648.htm

Scott Daruty (TrackNet) says Nevada getting volume discounts they don't deserve anymore... Only 4% of TrackNet's handle in fact. With ADW maturity, Nevada is hardly the simulcast hotbed it was 10 years ago.

Daruty also makes a great point that the Nevada casino consortium is reporting bulk handle figures only, which TrackNet wants detailed by casino.. With no individual breakout reports from the 80 casinos they represent, what if there is unusual or irregular betting patterns going in internally in that bulk figure? There is no way for TRPB or similar body to investigate potential shenanigans if patterns can't be identified.

Finally, he notes they started negotiations in February 2008 in order to prevent an 11th hour situation... yet here it is in the 11th hour.
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:17 AM
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Scott Daruty (TrackNet) says Nevada getting volume discounts they don't deserve anymore... Only 4% of TrackNet's handle in fact. With ADW maturity, Nevada is hardly the simulcast hotbed it was 10 years ago.

Daruty also makes a great point that the Nevada casino consortium is reporting bulk handle figures only, which TrackNet wants detailed by casino.. With no individual breakout reports from the 80 casinos they represent, what if there is unusual or irregular betting patterns going in internally in that bulk figure? There is no way for TRPB or similar body to investigate potential shenanigans if patterns can't be identified.

Finally, he notes they started negotiations in February 2008 in order to prevent an 11th hour situation... yet here it is in the 11th hour.
Steve,

All the chatter has been about how the casinos are not going to budge because they are in no position to give up on any money. Very unfortunate that it's taken this long.

I'm sure there's some posturing going on, but is it possible for Vegas, the shining beacon in the gambling darkness that has been these signal wars, to be shut out of TrackNet signals?

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Old 01-06-2009, 09:44 AM
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http://news.bloodhorse.com/article/48648.htm

Scott Daruty (TrackNet) says Nevada getting volume discounts they don't deserve anymore... Only 4% of TrackNet's handle in fact. With ADW maturity, Nevada is hardly the simulcast hotbed it was 10 years ago.

Daruty also makes a great point that the Nevada casino consortium is reporting bulk handle figures only, which TrackNet wants detailed by casino.. With no individual breakout reports from the 80 casinos they represent, what if there is unusual or irregular betting patterns going in internally in that bulk figure? There is no way for TRPB or similar body to investigate potential shenanigans if patterns can't be identified.

Finally, he notes they started negotiations in February 2008 in order to prevent an 11th hour situation... yet here it is in the 11th hour.
might be a dumb question, but if they're gonna stonewall vegas is this gonna affect the World Series of Handicapping? Not that i'm going or anything

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Old 01-06-2009, 09:47 AM
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BT -- I think that's an excellent question.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:16 AM
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Whats to stop the sports book from showing the HRTV and TVG feeds and go back to booking the bets ?
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:31 AM
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Could the casinos and other on-line outlets.start promoting and feature Euro, Hong Kong. and quality Australian racing. Im sure this is not the solution but would this get Magna and Twin Spires attention?
I've been in the Mohegan Sun racebook late at night before and the only people betting Aussie and other international races are really drunk guys with $12 in their pockets who get confused by the race set up AUS 3A, AUS 3B, etc.
I think there is a market for it, but not enough to make TrackNet budge much...isn't the international route the one TVG took when they started losing exclusivity? Hasn't worked for them.
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