kip Deville vs. showing up

Originally Posted by mp3

guys, lets get real. To say that SU will love the turf because he worked faster than EC is a horrible analogy. Put a horse on the turf in race conditions and then tell me. Turf racing over a distance requires a horse to rate just off the bridle, handle uneven footing and bobbling, run through holes and sprint home. SU has to win on the turf before we make him a super turf horse. KD has won on the turf and was stylish doing so. Doesn't mean he is better than SU but to say that SU is a better turf horse right now is incorrect.

I've seen Kip Deville run, and despite the fast that he'll improve for Dutrow like every other horse does (for whatever reason), Showing Up is a FAR better colt than Kip Deville and will crush him if he gets over the turf okay and I believe the turf won't be a huge obstacle for this son of Strategic Mission..

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I've seen Kip Deville run, and despite the fast that he'll improve for Dutrow like every other horse does (for whatever reason), Showing Up is a FAR better colt than Kip Deville and will crush him if he gets over the turf okay and I believe the turf won't be a huge obstacle for this son of Strategic Mission..

I am no pedigree expert but I have been told by people he should love the turf. If he is 90% of the horse he was on the dirt he will walk all over these horses. I was told all spring that Barbaro was a far superior horse to Showing Up but that Showing Up would make a big jump up in the summer/fall once he got a few races under his belt. I know they were shocked at how well he ran in the derby considering it was his 4th race and he missed some training time with injuries.