So how did you do in 2008? Winner/Loser?

[-BT-]

Sports Gambling: Started hot, finishing on fumes (off season can't get here fast enough)
Horses: Down, could be worse but i set a pretty high standard in 2007 that was darn near impossible to sustain this year.

** what i learned: not betting a race is not a bad thing, horizontal wagers are where the money is.

have a happy and safe new year everyone

-bt-

[Rudeboyelvis]

Never really got going after '08 Tampa, and with some new ventures in ownership, my allotted horsey money was really scaled back quite a bit... Decent Toga, but overall a disappointing 2008 wager-wise.

Learned it truly is a game of involvement and it difficult to go back to tracks that you haven't followed due to (ADW issues) and replicate success....

Excited for '09... It's easy to dwell on the negatives (of which there are many) but the ADW resolution in FL and CA, steroid consistency among the major circuits, and the fact that the industry on many fronts is at least starting to get it (ie. BC's reversal to fund stakes). Take the positives we have gleaned from the economic downturn, LISTEN to the voices of reason that have been there before (Wish John Nerud was President! ) an move our game forward...It is an exciting time to be apart of this, and hope 2009 brings growth and success to our game

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Horse Ownership - DOWN

Horse Betting - DOWN

Sports Betting - small up

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

Horse Ownership - DOWN

Horse Betting - DOWN

Sports Betting - small up

Horse Ownership - Way way down. Many checks going out, very few coming in.

Horse Betting - UP

Sports Betting - I gave up on this when I found out I could make money horsey betting and had a viciously down year in the late '80's.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Horse ownership..... leads the pack out of the three, part of first winner
Horse wagering..... nowheres near as good in 2007
Sports Betting..... started out very slow, late charge.... late in the season

[jwkniska]

if you put general sports betting in, was a ton better than just the horses alone, as was positive there (not as much as some other years, but still positive... March Madness was good to me).

[joeydb]

Up for the year due to decent tournament performance.

[dagolfer33]

Up. Not enough to buy a new car, but did OK. I mainly bet tri's and do spot wagers on bombers. Highlight of the year, hitting the super in the derby. Did most of my best at Evangeline with horses coming from the Fairgrounds. Looking forward to that coming up.

[hi_im_god]

horses -$813. big losses on derby day and particularly bc drove this. i'm positive 363 days exclusive of the losses on my 2 biggest betting days of the year.

[sdjcom]

I am a modest bettor, however I never bet maidens of any kind pk3 pk4 pk6
(except the imaginary contests) any 2yr old race or any about distance race
like FG has a lot of,and I can say exactas I manage a small loss however win bets was a small gain, but believe it or not place bets off my twin spires acct management report was the best roi. I was shocked.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

I am a modest bettor, however I never bet maidens of any kind pk3 pk4 pk6
(except the imaginary contests) any 2yr old race or any about distance race
like FG has a lot of,and I can say exactas I manage a small profit, however win bets was a small gain, but believe it or not place bets off my twin spires acct management report was the best roi. I was shocked.

Please don't take offense, SD, but....I didn't get most of this....first off, Where do you bet P4/P6's without maiden racesincluded?Are you saying you never bet horizontally unless it is DD without maidens?
How do you eliminate any "about distance races" when virtually all turf courses move the rail (thus affecting distance slightly)after 7-10 racing days? How about when they are taken off and moderately adjusted for the distance? If you bet what you post, (and I am in no way insinuating you don't) you are far from a modest bettor.I agree that Place bets are probably the most successful way to go over the long haul for sure. Thanks for the insight - it's pretty cool to be able to track this and provide data that most of us don't bother with. I learned alot this year doing some of the same. Have a great New Year and look forward to your selections in '09

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Please don't take offense, SD, but....I didn't get most of this....first off, Where do you bet P4/P6's without maiden racesincluded?Are you saying you never bet horizontally unless it is DD without maidens?
How do you eliminate any "about distance races" when virtually all turf courses move the rail (thus affecting distance slightly)after 7-10 racing days? How about when they are taken off and moderately adjusted for the distance? If you bet what you post, (and I am in no way insinuating you don't) you are far from a modest bettor.I agree that Place bets are probably the most successful way to go over the long haul for sure. Thanks for the insight - it's pretty cool to be able to track this and provide data that most of us don't bother with. I learned alot this year doing some of the same. Have a great New Year and look forward to your selections in '09

Late entry for post of the year. 363 days profit and 2 big losing days

[sdjcom]

HNY Elvis, if you read it again i do not bet multi-race bets except on the contests steve puts up for fun. Also I don't believe you have ever seen me post a multi- race bet for real money on this site, as well as 2yr old races, and maiden races, if i ever do it was a huge mistake and i was asleep at the keyboard. so i can pass these races,and as far as the turf races i agreed that the rail can change distance slightly however i still use the times for the standard distances and pass about dis, races, to be honest i'm not a big fan of turf races, and i had a small loss on exactas, i posted wrong will change it.

[sdjcom]

also i forgot Elvis i don't think you'll find any post where iv'e made a DD bet
if i did i was asleep, hope you are doing well and llove your new avatar

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Please don't take offense, SD, but....I didn't get most of this....first off, Where do you bet P4/P6's without maiden racesincluded?Are you saying you never bet horizontally unless it is DD without maidens?
How do you eliminate any "about distance races" when virtually all turf courses move the rail (thus affecting distance slightly)after 7-10 racing days? How about when they are taken off and moderately adjusted for the distance? If you bet what you post, (and I am in no way insinuating you don't) you are far from a modest bettor.I agree that Place bets are probably the most successful way to go over the long haul for sure. Thanks for the insight - it's pretty cool to be able to track this and provide data that most of us don't bother with. I learned alot this year doing some of the same. Have a great New Year and look forward to your selections in '09

hey Elvis i just notice you are from florida, i.m in miami till friday got stuck here no load out till then however weather is great down here better than last week when i was home for Xmas

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

hey Elvis i just notice you are from florida, i.m in miami till friday got stuck here no load out till then however weather is great down here better than last week when i was home for Xmas

Just got back home from the 2200 mile trek visiting the relatives in VA and WV...I don't know how you guys do it.. Glad to be home... If you ever get to Tampa, PM Me or Bigs...get ya hooked up TBD style!