Dick Jauron/Turk Schonert/Jets/Dolphins playalong thread

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah he has an experience advantage.....holding clipboards. Flacco and Ryan did not have better seasons than Cassell. Making the playoffs may have a little more to do with the Ravens defense and Altantas division than the play of the QB's. Your arguemnets are actually getting more bizzare. Cassell has an experience edge with real game experience? Yeah those 60 passes the last 7 years were the perfect prep.

How is that any more valid than saying the stats the QB put up had more to do with the supporting cast and the system in which he was throwing? What is bizarre about that?

You discount experience of being in the League. Learning a system. Practice. Serving as an understudy to arguably the best QB in the last 10 years. Is this not valuable? Would that not make him more prepared for the NFL than a rookie coming from Delaware???????

What is bizarre about that?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

How is that any more valid than saying the stats the QB put up had more to do with the supporting cast and the system in which he was throwing? What is bizarre about that?

You discount experience of being in the League. Learning a system. Practice. Serving as an understudy to arguably the best QB in the last 10 years. Is this not valuable? Would that not make him more prepared for the NFL than a rookie coming from Delaware???????

What is bizarre about that?

You made a ridiclous statement that Flacco and Ryan somehow had more sucessful season because their teams made the playoffs.

Playing anywhere is better experience than practice. This guy never played an important snap in college or the pros before this year. Think about that. Never played an important snap ever in his career. Serving as an understudy is nice but why didnt Dan Marino or Dan Fouts or so many other great QB's understudies come in an play as well as Cassel. The problem is that you want to discredit the guys performance because he played with other good players instead of giving the guy credit for what he DID do despite all the obstacles he had. I am not an NFL scout or coach so I will judge him on what he has done which was play at a high level for a player totally lacking in game experience and improving throughout the season. There was a reason the coach stuck with him instead of bringing in retreads.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You made a ridiclous statement that Flacco and Ryan somehow had more sucessful season because their teams made the playoffs.

Playing anywhere is better experience than practice. This guy never played an important snap in college or the pros before this year. Think about that. Never played an important snap ever in his career. Serving as an understudy is nice but why didnt Dan Marino or Dan Fouts or so many other great QB's understudies come in an play as well as Cassel. The problem is that you want to discredit the guys performance because he played with other good players instead of giving the guy credit for what he DID do despite all the obstacles he had. I am not an NFL scout or coach so I will judge him on what he has done which was play at a high level for a player totally lacking in game experience and improving throughout the season. There was a reason the coach stuck with him instead of bringing in retreads.

So its ridiculous to judge a QB's performance by the success of his team? LOL. How else should we judge them? By stats? You saying that is ridiculous is ridiculous.

I gave him credit for what he did...just not as much credit as you do. The coach saw talent...and a cheap backup. Salary cap management has been vital to this team's success. Why would Belichick/Pioli spend money on a retread when their QB was an iron man and in the prime of his career? A backup with four years of experience and 525k against your cap? He was perfect. Thats why they kept him around...not because he was some kind of diamond in the rough.

If I implied that he had a bad season, it wasnt my intention. I agree...he had a very good season and certainly beyond anyone's expectations. It is certainly arguable that he had a season just as good or better than the guys i named and that argument is valid. I just dont agree thats all.

He may very well go on to be a successful QB. I am just not of the opinion that will happen. Time will tell.