OJ Sentencing

Payson Dave · #1 12-05-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Why am I posting this? I must be a complete idiot but...what the hell!
Did OJ kill his wife and her friend?
Everybody has an opinion but the jury found him not guilty,
Had I been on that jury I would have voted likewise...Mark Furhman (sp?) made it impossible to convict him.
Is he an idiot? His actions since the crime scream "YES"
But...if we incarcerated folks for being idiots....
This latest crime is hardly worth a long sentence...
Our legal system don't state that it's ok to "get even" or balance the scales...
He should have been sentenced solely on the merits of this conviction...
Was he?
Even if he is guilty of murder...he didn't get away with anything...he simply avoided man's law...I believe there is a higher justice.
I also believe that it is better to let a guilty man go free than to punish an innocent man...isn't that a cornerstone of our system?
I find no joy in this....I find the man pathetic, yes...distasteful, but I don't get the vulturistic joy of some...

fwiw..
Somer for the most part I don't see alot (some but not a lot) that I disagree with in your post....it does seem like you are saying that there was some "get even" or "balancing of the scales"..... that might be your opinion, but not necassarilly fact....
Your statement regarding "the latest crime is hardly worth a long sentence".... is also opinion that seems to be stated a bit more like "fact"

anyhoo....perhaps some see "justice" differently than you..... maybe even some see karma as a form of "higher justice"....and that may explain the "vulturistic joy" that seems to be bothering you.

Mortimer · #2 12-05-2008, 05:09 PM

SomerTossed is a rambling fool---there is no reasoning with this pontificating cretin.

#3 12-05-2008, 05:11 PM

Hey somerseve...

King Glorious · #4 12-05-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Hey somerseve...

Obviously, you don't believe in our criminal justice system.

#5 12-05-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Obviously, you don't believe in our criminal justice system.

Of course not.

somerfrost · #6 12-05-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave

fwiw..
Somer for the most part I don't see alot (some but not a lot) that I disagree with in your post....it does seem like you are saying that there was some "get even" or "balancing of the scales"..... that might be your opinion, but not necassarilly fact....

perhaps some see "justice" differently than you..... maybe even some see karma as a form of "higher justice"....and that may explain the "vulturistic joy" that seems to be bothering you.

Dave,
Sorry if I implied that the judge DID use the sentencing to "get even", I think I stated several times in different posts that i surely don't KNOW that for a fact, merely that it was a concern that it may have happened. Also, to reiterate, it appears very likely that the sentence will be appealed so that will determine a lot imo...if the sentence is upheld then end of story. Regarding concepts of "justice"...if I address that issue then I'll be accused of preaching again, I guess a short comment would be ...it depends upon one's belief regarding dominion of "justice"

King Glorious · #7 12-05-2008, 05:31 PM

I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19

#8 12-05-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19

Don't quote that make believe s.hit.

Payson Dave · #9 12-05-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19

hmmm.....is this an opinion or is it undeniable fact????

opinions are kinda like assholes.....just because you have one does not mean you have to wave it around in everyones face...

somerfrost · #10 12-05-2008, 05:36 PM

[quote=King Glorious]I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19[/QUOTE

I understand how you feel but again, the system will decide...the sentence will be appealed and that should answer the question of fairness...only the judge knows what her decision was based upon. I'm sure Simpson's legal team will look at her previous sentencing structure and see if this is in line or not and that will be part of the appeal if different.

Danzig · #11 12-05-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19

i disagree.
you know, if more people got sentences with teeth in them, maybe they wouldn't get in trouble a second time around. an armed robbery and kidnapping, basically that's what occurred. he's lucky he only got what he got.

somerfrost · #12 12-05-2008, 05:40 PM

Mrs Z, you're using a generalized argument in a specific case.

Danzig · #13 12-05-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Mrs Z, you're using a generalized argument in a specific case.

so?

Mortimer · #14 12-05-2008, 05:55 PM

The racist cops also badly cut Simpsons finger...and erased from his memory how it was cut the day of the murders.

They did input..."maybe golfing--I'm always cutting myself golfing."

Mortimer · #15 12-05-2008, 05:44 PM

The racist limo driver also saw a large white man entering the house the about 10:55...not a black man.

The racist house guest,Kay-Toe ,( Simpsons lee-tel yallow frand) just minutes before the large white man entered the house heard Fuhrman planting the glove behind his room.

King Glorious · #16 12-05-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i disagree.
you know, if more people got sentences with teeth in them, maybe they wouldn't get in trouble a second time around. an armed robbery and kidnapping, basically that's what occurred. he's lucky he only got what he got.

I believe that's an over-exxaggeration of what really happened. He went in there to take back his own stuff that was stolen from him. Nobody was hurt. The issue should be with the courts and the system for not convicting him the first time. This court shouldn't be allowed to make up for previous decision. This court's job was to rule on the merits of this case only and impose a punishment for this case only. This court's job is not to impose any vengeance, karma, or anything of that nature.

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave

hmmm.....is this an opinion or is it undeniable fact????

It's obviously an opinion but I 100% believe it to be fact.

Danzig · #17 12-05-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I believe that's an over-exxaggeration of what really happened. He went in there to take back his own stuff that was stolen from him. Nobody was hurt. The issue should be with the courts and the system for not convicting him the first time. This court shouldn't be allowed to make up for previous decision. This court's job was to rule on the merits of this case only and impose a punishment for this case only. This court's job is not to impose any vengeance, karma, or anything of that nature.

It's obviously an opinion but I 100% believe it to be fact.

ok, well...if someone stole something from me, i'd call the police, rather than hire a bunch of goons, and go into a room with guns drawn. i'd say that if anyone is over-exaggerating, it's simpson and his 'story' of how he was just trying to retrieve what was his. maybe he just felt it was 'his' because it has his name signed on it.
as for 'no one was hurt', that has nothing to do with it. a whole lot of people sitting in jail right now wish they could use that defense, which really isn't one.
and i disagree that the sentence in this case was for others as well. it's in line with the crimes he was charged with and found guilty of committing.

Mortimer · #18 12-05-2008, 06:03 PM

This last legal matter of Simpson's.....Fuhrman planted the guns,the gunmen and Simpson in that hotel room.

King Glorious · #19 12-05-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

ok, well...if someone stole something from me, i'd call the police, rather than hire a bunch of goons, and go into a room with guns drawn. i'd say that if anyone is over-exaggerating, it's simpson and his 'story' of how he was just trying to retrieve what was his. maybe he just felt it was 'his' because it has his name signed on it.
as for 'no one was hurt', that has nothing to do with it. a whole lot of people sitting in jail right now wish they could use that defense, which really isn't one.
and i disagree that the sentence in this case was for others as well. it's in line with the crimes he was charged with and found guilty of committing.

There is no doubt that he committed a crime here and that he should be paying a price for it. It was a stupid thing to do and the wrong way to handle things and he's got to face the music. There is no debating or denying that. That nobody was hurt, I wasn't saying it should be a defense. But I do feel like it should be a factor in determining punishment. What was he in there trying to take? That should be considered also. I'm just having a hard time seeing how this punishment fit this crime.

#20 12-05-2008, 07:07 PM

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