Bush's Executive orders of past 8 years

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Bob..

You're from Wilbraham? You got to be kidding.. Home of Friendly's. I spent a tremendous amount of time in Springfield growing up.. My first job at 16 was with Forbes & Wallace. My dad built a lot in and around Springfield. Plus, we had season Whalers tix when the Civic Center roof went down and we had to come to games there. Remember Ciro's? Fabulous Italian joint. Ray's Grinders... Gus & Paul's..

Gus and Paul's is still there!

[letswastemoney]

They should really fund stem cell research more. I believe cancer and whatnot will be cured using this method one day...

[TheSpyder]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

They should really fund stem cell research more. I believe cancer and whatnot will be cured using this method one day...

I've been suffering from whatnot for some time....

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

I've been suffering from whatnot for some time....

It's killing me.

[GenuineRisk]

Greenwald had an interesting column today on the Executive Orders.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa.../11/lieberman/

My favorite part:
<<But promulgating new regulations for off-shore oil drilling, or stem-cell research, or aid to foreign family planning groups, are clearly within the legislative function. Urging that Obama do those things anyway because you like the outcome is no different, on the level of principle, than those who urged Bush to govern unilaterally because they liked the outcome of his decisions. Even more so, those who argue that Obama needs unconstrained executive power because of the "financial crisis" are really no different at all than those who supported the Cheney/Yoo theories of executive power on the ground of the Terrorist threat.>>

I was ecstatic over Obama's win, but that doesn't mean I want him ignoring the Legislative Branch. The Founding Fathers divided up gov't for a reason. Doesn't mean Obama will do Executive Orders like Bush did, but the piece makes for interesting reading.

[geeker2]

Interest facts ..total executive orders

Bush (g.w.)- 262
Clinton - 364
Reagan - 381
Carter - 320
FDR - 3,728


http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...sposition.html

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Greenwald had an interesting column today on the Executive Orders.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa.../11/lieberman/

My favorite part:
<<But promulgating new regulations for off-shore oil drilling, or stem-cell research, or aid to foreign family planning groups, are clearly within the legislative function. Urging that Obama do those things anyway because you like the outcome is no different, on the level of principle, than those who urged Bush to govern unilaterally because they liked the outcome of his decisions. Even more so, those who argue that Obama needs unconstrained executive power because of the "financial crisis" are really no different at all than those who supported the Cheney/Yoo theories of executive power on the ground of the Terrorist threat.>>

I was ecstatic over Obama's win, but that doesn't mean I want him ignoring the Legislative Branch. The Founding Fathers divided up gov't for a reason. Doesn't mean Obama will do Executive Orders like Bush did, but the piece makes for interesting reading.

i agree with that part-have to admit i didn't read the whole article...seems our ledge should handle these policies-after all, what benefit if it's on again, off again based on who's in the oval office at the time?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i agree with that part-have to admit i didn't read the whole article...seems our ledge should handle these policies-after all, what benefit if it's on again, off again based on who's in the oval office at the time?

You may enjoy Greenwald, Danzig- he's a Constitutional lawyer, and can be just as aggressive on the Dems as the Repubs- the Constitution is his main concern.

I did a little reading on executive orders- mainly they serve to clarify laws already on the books, but they have been taken to extremes. As for correcting them-

<<Legal conflicts
To date, U.S. courts have overturned only two executive orders: the aforementioned Truman order (integrating the US Military), and a 1996 order issued by President Clinton that attempted to prevent the US government from contracting with organizations that had strike-breakers on the payroll. [2] Congress may overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it or by refusing to approve funding to enforce it. In the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order. It has been argued that a Congressional override of an executive order is a nearly impossible event due to the supermajority vote required and the fact that such a vote leaves individual lawmakers very vulnerable to political criticism. [3]>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executi...(United_States)