Vineyard Haven Sold...

Danzig · #1 11-06-2008, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Simply put, the travel is necessary because that's where they winter their horses. The Derby is just one of the goals of the operation. Does that mean they should disrupt their whole setup just because its not an ideal arrangement for one specific race? Apparently not. Particularly when they don't necessarily produce a viable contender every year (and haven't now for some time) to begin with.

but surely they could winter their american contingent somewhere a bit closer? not like the guy can't afford to buy yet another farm. and many of theirs run here all year long, so it's not like they target just the derby and head back. also, like i said before, they need to do what's best for their horses-ignoring what a horse is telling you is not the way to winning races. if they're going to run horses here, i would assume after their years of struggling, that maybe it's time for a change in tactics.

my miss storm cat · #2 03-25-2009, 04:20 PM

I thought this was interesting... figured I'd post it for his fans (assuming he still has fans, of course).

"Vineyard Haven did not do well when he got to Dubai. We made a mistake in running him at the Dubai International Racing Carnival and now we are just giving him the time to do better in himself. When he gets back to America, he will step up a gear."

http://www.godolphin.com/NewsArticle.aspx?id=4326

SCUDSBROTHER · #3 03-25-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I thought this was interesting... figured I'd post it for his fans (assuming he still has fans, of course).

"Vineyard Haven did not do well when he got to Dubai. We made a mistake in running him at the Dubai International Racing Carnival and now we are just giving him the time to do better in himself. When he gets back to America, he will step up a gear."

"F the desert, and these people in sheets. I used to get some bagel(now nothing.")-V.H.

NTamm1215 · #4 03-25-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't know what was more of a shock today. A John Ward horse getting injured, or a nice 2 year old that was bought up, shipped to Dubai and he didn't do well afterwards.

Well said. I can't imagine what kind of stuff Ward has on Oxley because I wouldn't have put up with his shi.t even if were lifelong friends. It's getting beyond ridiculous.

NT

my miss storm cat · #5 03-25-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't know what was more of a shock today. A John Ward horse getting injured, or a nice 2 year old that was bought up, shipped to Dubai and he didn't do well afterwards.

The haters seem to think our friends in royal blue (applause!) don't admit mistakes. That was part of the reason I posted it.

blackthroatedwind · #6 03-25-2009, 06:11 PM

It would be even better if they admitted they made a mistake shipping him ( and Midshipman ) to Dubai.

When they do that they will get a LOT closer to actually having an impact on out TC races.

reese · #7 03-25-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I agree, it's a nice gesture to admit it. Now the next step would be to learn from those mistakes. Baby steps...

If you are implying the Sheik admit the mistake is "sending his stable
to winter in Dubai, then returning 3-yr olds to race in the Derby... the odds of that happening are...50-1 .

Jason Levin spelled out clearly in his book Desert to Derby that the Sheik "is determined to win the KD with a Godolphin 3-yr old horse who wintered in Dubai". The Sheik "always gets what he wants" except a KD winner.

Soon the day will be here when Godolphin will own every Derby contender, and where they "winter will be irrelevant"