You can hear a pin drop during the McCain speech.... - Page 9

Riot · #**161** 11-05-2008, 08:05 PM

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Billionaires are isolated from policies that effect businesses and hence they sometimes have extreme views from the guilt they feel from their own fortune.

Who confided this to you, Donald The Trump?

I would guess the average billionaire would be quite able to lobby to form that policy (see GOP, 2000-2008)

Yes, I absolutely grant the average billionaire would be, I suspect, rather isolated from the financial storms average folks have to weather daily (in BERK- B shares I trust)

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Unlike some I refuse to believe the most liberal member of Congress is suddenly going to move to the center especially with majorities in the House and Senate. Because he IS smart I may be correct in guessing that he has outsmarted many that believe the hype. "Redistribute the wealth" is not a term that he has backdown from or is afraid to say. That one line in itself should say it all about where we are headed

I do not like that line either. However, there is no money for campaign promises. There is financial chaos and government debt. Promises are one thing, reality another. I'll wait and see where we end up.

#**162** 11-05-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

I do not like that line either. However, there is no money for campaign promises. There is financial chaos and government debt. Promises are one thing, reality another. I'll wait and see where we end up.

Obama is not stupid.
There is no way health care, heavy taxes, and many
other things that might be possible in a healthy economy
will come to fruition in the form first dreamed about.

Reality is one thing this guy gets. And he has shown
a history of being a guy who sits back and listens, and
then makes diplomatic realistic decisions. But it still is unclear
how much can actually be accomplished with so many mistakes
to clean up.

Cannon Shell · #**163** 11-05-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Who confided this to you, Donald The Trump?

I would guess the average billionaire would be quite able to lobby to form that policy (see GOP, 2000-2008)

Yes, I absolutely grant the average billionaire would be, I suspect, rather isolated from the financial storms average folks have to weather daily (in BERK- B shares I trust)

I do not like that line either. However, there is no money for campaign promises. There is financial chaos and government debt. Promises are one thing, reality another. I'll wait and see where we end up.

Actually I was listening to a very wealthy man talk about it sometime ago and have never forgot it.

Do you really think that the influence of the mega rich started in 2000?

So you voted for a guy who made promises that are in your view are unlikely to actually happen?

dalakhani · #**164** 11-05-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Compared to the last 2 elections it wasnt that close but it was hardly a runaway from an electoral standpoint. In 1988 GH Bush won the EC vote 411 to 111, in 1984 Reagan won the EC vote 525 to 13, in 1980 he won 489 to 49, in 1972 Nixon won 520 to 17, in 1964 Johnson won 486 to 52. Those are epic stompings. How do you expect us to educate Scavs on elections and the political system if you keep giving him hyperbole instead of truth?

All true. But tell me when a candidate from the same party as the sitting president lost this bad? I dont think its happened.

For a race that was supposed to be close, this was indeed emphatic.

Riot · #**165** 11-05-2008, 10:15 PM

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Do you really think that the influence of the mega rich started in 2000?

Not, not at all. Why?

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So you voted for a guy who made promises that are in your view are unlikely to actually happen?

I voted for the guy I thought had exceptional intelligence and thoughtfulness, and will be most able to deal with the various disasters we are going through and yet may occur in the next four years. This guy has ice water in his veins when needed.

Cannon Shell · #**166** 11-06-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Not, not at all. Why?

I voted for the guy I thought had exceptional intelligence and thoughtfulness, and will be most able to deal with the various disasters we are going through and yet may occur in the next four years. This guy has ice water in his veins when needed.

(GOP 2000-2008)

When has he needed ice water in his veins? Did he play in the World Series of Poker or something we dont know about?

dalakhani · #**167** 11-06-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Actually I was listening to a very wealthy man talk about it sometime ago and have never forgot it.

Do you really think that the influence of the mega rich started in 2000?

So you voted for a guy who made promises that are in your view are unlikely to actually happen?

LOL...

Oh Chuck...did you ever rely on campaign promises from ANY politician? Read my lips...

#**168** 11-06-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

(GOP 2000-2008)

When has he needed ice water in his veins? Did he play in the World Series of Poker or something we dont know about?

He beat a Clinton.
How many Republicans have beaten a Clinton?

Cannon Shell · #**169** 11-06-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL...

Oh Chuck...did you ever rely on campaign promises from ANY politician? Read my lips...

Damon Thayer!!! He lives up to his promises! the rest suck

Cannon Shell · #**170** 11-06-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

He beat a Clinton.
How many Republicans have beaten a Clinton?

You need ice water for that? i just thought you drifted lefter and lefter

#**171** 11-06-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You need ice water for that? i just thought you drifted lefter and lefter

So what do you need icewater for, besides
Morton knawing on one's ankles?

Beating Hillary Clinton head on in the Democratic
party takes... large cahones?