Obama wins Georgia

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

she doesn't strike me as a conservative,either!

just ask scuds.

[Antitrust32]

i got ya back dont worry!

Now explain this no gays allowed to adopt or be foster parents thingy!?!?! (not that I think you voted for it)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i got ya back dont worry!

Now explain this no gays allowed to adopt or be foster parents thingy!?!?! (not that I think you voted for it)

arghhhhhhhhh!

the whole election locally ticked me off.

they wanted a rule that only married couples could adopt or have foster kids. no 'cohabitating' couples. they said from the get go that their main target was homosexuals-they passed ( i say 'they' because i sure didn't vote for it!) a constitutional amendment here a few years ago on marriage only being one man, one woman. so, since homosexuals can't marry here, they cannot adopt or be foster parents.
i had an issue with that--for example, if two women are raising a child as theirs, what if the legal mother passes away? the second mother has no rights for that child at all. how would that affect her and her child? i can't imagine. also, only one mother could be the legal parent, as now the other has no recourse for adoption. what if they were to end their relationship? what recourse would the second parent have for visitation?
and what about the fact that there already are far more foster kids than foster parents? how does this help?

i told my husband that all those who voted for this crap, who say they want what's best for kids....well, what about all the folks down here (and it happens a ton here, it's insane) who run around on their spouse, marry and divorce multiple times, etc? and they care about childrens well-being? when? you'd have to be here and see what goes on to believe it. i liken these towns around her to peyton place. only worse.

[Mike]

What state are you in, Danzig?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Mike

What state are you in, Danzig?

arkansas.

we moved here about 14 years ago. it has it's good points, and it's bad-which is much like everywhere i'd imagine.

oh, did i mention that i live in a dry county?


i sometimes call it the land that time forgot. tony and i pretty much keep to ourselves! people think we're heathens, since we don't go to church. there are over 100 in this area, it's hilarious.

i think there are so many so that those remarrying can avoid all the ex-spouses church. only nevada outdoes arkansas in divorce rate.

[Antitrust32]

Its crazy that people these days feel this way...

Really sucks for the gay people of arkansas... eventhough how it sounds.. if you're gay you just get the fucl< outta dodge!

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Danzig

arkansas.

we moved here about 14 years ago. it has it's good points, and it's bad-which is much like everywhere i'd imagine.

oh, did i mention that i live in a dry county?


i sometimes call it the land that time forgot. tony and i pretty much keep to ourselves! people think we're heathens, since we don't go to church. there are over 100 in this area, it's hilarious.

i think there are so many so that those remarrying can avoid all the ex-spouses church. only nevada outdoes arkansas in divorce rate.

you left out the worst roads and schools in the country
















outside of Illinois








another thing Obama has in common with Clinton

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Danzig

arkansas.


i think there are so many so that those remarrying can avoid all the ex-spouses church. only nevada outdoes arkansas in divorce rate.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i got ya back dont worry!

Now explain this no gays allowed to adopt or be foster parents thingy!?!?! (not that I think you voted for it)

The majority of people (wherever that is) don't like gays. You understand now?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The majority of people (wherever that is) don't like gays. You understand now?

I understand that unfortunately.

I just dont understand how you can tell people not to raise children.

If there was a Prop 8 saying blacks can only sit at the back of the bus... or a Prop 8 saying blacks cant adopt children.... this whole country would be outraged.

But throw in a different type of discrimination and this BULLSHIT passes.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I understand that unfortunately.

I just dont understand how you can tell people not to raise children.

If there was a Prop 8 saying blacks can only sit at the back of the bus... or a Prop 8 saying blacks cant adopt children.... this whole country would be outraged.

But throw in a different type of discrimination and this BULLSHIT passes.

Right after I voted, I went outside, and saw a small plane in the air. It had a message it was pulling. Said "vote YES ON 8." L.A. County even passed it(7 out of 10 Blacks voted for it.) The majority of people in the state don't like gays. If they are gunna leave it up to the majority, then it ain't gunna work. This is twice now. If they try it again, it will be about the same result. Gays are the public's last group of bitches. They don't want to give that up.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Right after I voted, I went outside, and saw a small plane in the air. It had a message it was pulling. Said "vote YES ON 8." L.A. County even passed it(7 out of 10 Blacks voted for it.) The majority of people in the state don't like gays. If they are gunna leave it up to the majority, then it ain't gunna work. This is twice now. If they try it again, it will be about the same result. Gays are the public's last group of bitches. They don't want to give that up.

EXACTLY! Gays are the last group (well maybe Muslims now) that you can discriminate against where ever and when ever you want and people agree with you. Its like the religious nuts and repubs last piece of bigotry that they feel justified on.

How ANY black person could vote YES on Prop 8 is beyond me!
They should know all about equal rights and support it.

This makes me sick.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

EXACTLY! Gays are the last group (well maybe Muslims now) that you can discriminate against where ever and when ever you want and people agree with you. Its like the religious nuts and repubs last piece of bigotry that they feel justified on.

How ANY black person could vote YES on Prop 8 is beyond me!
They should know all about equal rights and support it.

This makes me sick.

They think you're evil. They think you should get a man, and get to bucking, huh?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

just ask scuds.

that's your reference????? Holy crap! Scuds is on the sidelines for this one.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

that's your reference????? Holy crap! Scuds is on the sidelines for this one.

what about me? Does my opinion mean nothing to you eventhough I'm conservative?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

what about me? Does my opinion mean nothing to you eventhough I'm conservative?

yes..your opinion means something to me

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

that's your reference????? Holy crap! Scuds is on the sidelines for this one.

scuds says im a conservative because i exercise my rights under the second amendment to the constitution. i'm also not an advocate of large federal govt, which in his eyes means i'm anti-welfare.
i just happen to think that most programs should be handled by states, and that the federal govt has gotten far too big. but states like it that way, as the federal govt for most is very far away, and easy to call the bad guy, while local and state govt is only minutes or hours away. i also don't want universal health care, which he and others have blasted me for.
i doubt tho that scuds is on the sidelines, he'll be around.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

scuds says im a conservative because i exercise my rights under the second amendment to the constitution. i'm also not an advocate of large federal govt, which in his eyes means i'm anti-welfare.
i just happen to think that most programs should be handled by states, and that the federal govt has gotten far too big. but states like it that way, as the federal govt for most is very far away, and easy to call the bad guy, while local and state govt is only minutes or hours away. i also don't want universal health care, which he and others have blasted me for.
i doubt tho that scuds is on the sidelines, he'll be around.

Scuds tends to "pigeon-hole" people when he thinks he has them figured out!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

that's your reference????? Holy crap! Scuds is on the sidelines for this one.

It's just that I am letting the Conservative White Males vent some. I actually think some of our White Trash is gunna try very hard to kill OBA. So, you should consider sharpening your knives for JOE. Zig is a Conservative on most issues, but not on Social Issues. She has positions that are pretty close to a typical Gay Republican (Log Cabin Republican.) That's the only way I have been able to define her selection of positions. I see her as a type of Conservative. She doesn't see herself that way, because she puts emphasis on the social issue disagreements she has with other Conservatives. Her other beliefs are very Conservative. That's why she is getting along with the Gay Republican Gal. That's exactly who she should be getting along with. She isn't gunna be loyal to a party, because she has too many issues in disagreement with parties. I believe one's economic ideas about society are the most important. That's why I don't see her as a DEM OR INDY. She's not in the middle on stuff. She's either very Conservative or very Liberal(Social issues.) She's not an INDY.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

It's just that I am letting the Conservative White Males vent some. I actually think some of our White Trash is gunna try very hard to kill OBA. So, you should consider sharpening your knives for JOE. Zig is a Conservative on most issues, but not on Social Issues. She has positions that are pretty close to a typical Gay Republican (Log Cabin Republican.) That's the only way I have been able to define her selection of positions. I see her as a type of Conservative. She doesn't see herself that way, because she puts emphasis on the social issue disagreements she has with other Conservatives. Her other beliefs are very Conservative. That's why she is getting along with the Gay Republican Gal. That's exactly who she should be getting along with. She isn't gunna be loyal to a party, because she has too many issues in disagreement with parties. I believe one's economic ideas about society are the most important. That's why I don't see her as a DEM OR INDY. She's not in the middle on stuff. She's either very Conservative or very Liberal(Social issues.) She's not an INDY.

So what you are saying is that she's really fucl<ing smart!