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Old 11-05-2008, 01:26 PM
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maybe marginally better with Romney, who was my choice, but I still think that any Republican ticket would have been demolished in much the same way McCain/Palin was. Two things make me say that; the 3:1 spending advantage in favor of Obama, there is simply no way to easily overcome that; and the overwhelming and unprecendented media bias towards Obama. Its hard to put a value on that.
spending advantage = important... but where was the Republican $$ in this election? I don't see why the GOP allowed this to happen. They have access to plenty of funds, too.

media bias: not true. Simply not true. I don't know why so many people are using this as an excuse today.
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:49 PM
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spending advantage = important... but where was the Republican $$ in this election? I don't see why the GOP allowed this to happen. They have access to plenty of funds, too.

media bias: not true. Simply not true. I don't know why so many people are using this as an excuse today.
Obama reneged on public financing. McCain didn't. Also Obama took money from god only knows where because they didn't even bother to check where the money was coming for. Personally I expect this funding issue to be one of his first scandals. I don't know how it can just be overlooked. however with one party rule a lot can be swept under the rug so who knows.

as far as the media bias, its not even debatable, I don't know how a fairminded person could miss it. The mask has been dropped this time resulting in outright advocacy. Its gotten so bad that even people from with the industry themselves are speaking out against it. It's not an excuse its just a fact.
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:02 PM
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Jim, what should the media do? Do you want a free press? Then the press is free to call it as they see it, no? The choice of Palin was a disgrace, an insult to the intelligence of the American people. Only a suppressed media or a moronic media could endorse the ticket.
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:24 PM
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Obama reneged on public financing. McCain didn't. Also Obama took money from god only knows where because they didn't even bother to check where the money was coming for. Personally I expect this funding issue to be one of his first scandals. I don't know how it can just be overlooked. however with one party rule a lot can be swept under the rug so who knows.
as far as the media bias, its not even debatable, I don't know how a fairminded person could miss it. The mask has been dropped this time resulting in outright advocacy. Its gotten so bad that even people from with the industry themselves are speaking out against it. It's not an excuse its just a fact.
wasn't it one party rule during bushes first six years? did you mind it then?
also, donations to a party fall under first amendment rights, don't they?
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:30 PM
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Obama sure did renege on his word when he saw he would benefit from opting out of public financing

But, I strongly disagree with you in regards to Obama getting his money from "God knows where". Even Stevie Wonder can see that Obama got his money from the millions of new voters who finally saw a candidate worth voting for. Voter turnout set records because of the interest in Obama

I'm 45 years old, and this is the first time I've liked a major candidate for the presidency. Obama was very smart to get his book out a few years before the election(regarding his drug usage). His candor about this, even if politically calculated, paid off big-time
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