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Old 11-04-2008, 10:30 PM
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God knows if McCain won...there would be absolutely no booing in Obamas crowd
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:33 PM
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Damn, I missed the concession speech. I was down in my BUNKER, in the basement, preparing for all those attacks that are sure to come now that McCain won't be PROTECTING US.

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Old 11-04-2008, 10:32 PM
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All jokes aside, it was a very nice speech by McCain. Probably his finest moment in the last few months as Scavs said.

I agree. I'm interested to hear Obama now.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:33 PM
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All jokes aside, it was a very nice speech by McCain. Probably his finest moment in the last few months as Scavs said.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:49 PM
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All jokes aside, it was a very nice speech by McCain. Probably his finest moment in the last few months as Scavs said.
Agreed. McCain is a good man, whether you supported him or not, and he just showed it in a very big way.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:51 PM
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Agreed. McCain is a good man, whether you supported him or not, and he just showed it in a very big way.
I kinda thought he was a prick but he just stepped up big time and showed his class.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:56 PM
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I kinda thought he was a prick but he just stepped up big time and showed his class.

He lost his way during this campaign.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:00 PM
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He lost his way during this campaign.
Agreed, I think what he was told he needed to do to become President by his advisors won out over what he really wanted to do which was a shame. But it was nice to see tonight that it didn't change him and he reverted to his old self when the campaign was over.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:05 PM
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Well, I guess now he doesn't have to listen to Karl Rove.
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:19 AM
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based on his 2000 primary campaign vs. his 2008 presidential campaign it doesn't look to me like he was calling the shots this time.
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Old 11-05-2008, 06:07 AM
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He lost his way during this campaign.
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Old 11-05-2008, 06:18 AM
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I wonder if McCain woke up this morning and any part of him, deep down inside said..



phew.......
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:25 AM
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I think McCain was very gracious last night, he understands a undivided America is better than a divided one and his speech took steps in moving the nation fwd.

It will be interesting who Obama picks for his cabinet, his strength is he knows to surround himself with the best people, and that is where McCain lost the election I believe.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:29 AM
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I wonder if McCain woke up this morning and any part of him, deep down inside said..



phew.......
definitely

I am sure Bush is planning a big PHEW.

If I was him I would turn the keys over and head off to Texas - and say fucl< it!

Then become a Fox consultant.....
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:24 PM
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I kinda thought he was a prick but he just stepped up big time and showed his class.
This was exactly what I thought and agree about tonight.....
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:27 AM
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I already respected McCain before today. I respect him a little bit more after tonight.

I want to ask what may come as a silly question to some but something I'm curious about. What do you think would have happened had McCain offered the vice-president position to Hillary Clinton? There's probably a 99% chance she would have said no. There's probably a 99% chance that McCain would have prayed she would say no. But what would it have done for his public perception to at least have offered it to her? I'm sure a lot of people would have questioned the sincerity of the move and rightfully so. But I believe there are also plenty that would have thought it was a very bold move and it's my belief that it would have brought him more votes than adding Sarah Palin ended up costing him. I know it's something that was probably discussed at length on here but I never ventured to the threads so I don't know what was said but I think that if I was a woman, I would have been insulted when he pulled Palin's name out of nowhere. It was an obvious ploy to get the women voters that were disappointed by Clinton losing to Obama and I think it was an insult to think he could just pick any woman and that would make them happy. But what if he had offered it to Clinton? He would have been reaching across gender and party lines and I think a lot of people would have been impressed that not only was he saying he would work with the other side of the aisle but now he was proving it.

I don't know. Maybe it's just a crazy thought but I wonder what some of you others might have thought about it had he done it?
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:32 AM
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I already respected McCain before today. I respect him a little bit more after tonight.

I want to ask what may come as a silly question to some but something I'm curious about. What do you think would have happened had McCain offered the vice-president position to Hillary Clinton? There's probably a 99% chance she would have said no. There's probably a 99% chance that McCain would have prayed she would say no. But what would it have done for his public perception to at least have offered it to her? I'm sure a lot of people would have questioned the sincerity of the move and rightfully so. But I believe there are also plenty that would have thought it was a very bold move and it's my belief that it would have brought him more votes than adding Sarah Palin ended up costing him. I know it's something that was probably discussed at length on here but I never ventured to the threads so I don't know what was said but I think that if I was a woman, I would have been insulted when he pulled Palin's name out of nowhere. It was an obvious ploy to get the women voters that were disappointed by Clinton losing to Obama and I think it was an insult to think he could just pick any woman and that would make them happy. But what if he had offered it to Clinton? He would have been reaching across gender and party lines and I think a lot of people would have been impressed that not only was he saying he would work with the other side of the aisle but now he was proving it.

I don't know. Maybe it's just a crazy thought but I wonder what some of you others might have thought about it had he done it?
Same thing as if McCain had agreed to run as Kerry's running mate in the 2004 election. Going bipartisan is what the voters in the middle want and they are the ones who decide the election. So I think either combo would have won but neither combo will ever happen. It is like saying what if the Lakers traded Luke Walton for Lebron James last year.
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:29 AM
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I already respected McCain before today. I respect him a little bit more after tonight.

I want to ask what may come as a silly question to some but something I'm curious about. What do you think would have happened had McCain offered the vice-president position to Hillary Clinton? There's probably a 99% chance she would have said no. There's probably a 99% chance that McCain would have prayed she would say no. But what would it have done for his public perception to at least have offered it to her? I'm sure a lot of people would have questioned the sincerity of the move and rightfully so. But I believe there are also plenty that would have thought it was a very bold move and it's my belief that it would have brought him more votes than adding Sarah Palin ended up costing him. I know it's something that was probably discussed at length on here but I never ventured to the threads so I don't know what was said but I think that if I was a woman, I would have been insulted when he pulled Palin's name out of nowhere. It was an obvious ploy to get the women voters that were disappointed by Clinton losing to Obama and I think it was an insult to think he could just pick any woman and that would make them happy. But what if he had offered it to Clinton? He would have been reaching across gender and party lines and I think a lot of people would have been impressed that not only was he saying he would work with the other side of the aisle but now he was proving it.

I don't know. Maybe it's just a crazy thought but I wonder what some of you others might have thought about it had he done it?

IMO McCain didn't pick Palin. But had he been allowed to make his selection for VP, and picked HILLARY CLINTON the GOP would have made arrangements for Johnny Mac to get his old room back at the Hanoi Hilton !!!
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:47 AM
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of course mccain picked palin. she was one of the ones offered, he saw a chance to appeal to women voters, and took it. thing is, i don't think his folks did as good a job checking her out as they claimed, and it turned out to be a horrible choice.
i know some were very concerned when there was talk of lieberman, but i think he'd have been a good choice, and would have shown mccain was what he claimed to be, middle of the road, bipartisan-a lot of indies would have tilted his way.
but he and his advisers thought they needed to appeal to the far right, and now he's lost partly because of that strategy.

but face it....he mainly lost due to the current financial crisis, and because of the sitting, incredibly unpopular president.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:44 PM
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Agreed. McCain is a good man, whether you supported him or not, and he just showed it in a very big way.
First, I was not a supporter of this ticket. However, Andy I agree McCain is a good man, a war hero, a fine public servant. This speech was the real John McCain. In my opinion, he got terrible advice in the choices in personell, and tactics he used in this campaign. Karl Rove's old cronies along with the choice of Sarah Palin, kept this from being a closer race. I still have alot of respect for John McCain, it was a great speech, from a true patriot.
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