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Old 06-06-2006, 04:21 PM
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What horse has come out of that race? I am just thinking off the top of my head, but not many have come out of it....I agree with you though but that race was kinda weak...

For the record I could be completely wrong about this, I am at work and I can't look it up right now, but I don't think much came out of it
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Old 06-06-2006, 04:45 PM
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yeah hes in 70's, and hes only trained 27 champions and a ziilion tri corwon races and breeders cup champs. What a clown huh.
Playa you are absolutely brain dead when you bash this guy. You may worship jocks like Antley, but Lukas' commenst were taken completely out of context about him. They got a hold of the whole interview and the guy left out the parts about Luaks praising him as well. Whatever, the guy reinvented training as we know it, shipping to all spots, etc.
Henning, Bradshaw, Barnett, Maker, McLaughlin, Stewart, and Pletcher all went to D Wayne U. Obviously the guy isnt only a trainer but a teacher as well. His lasting impression on this game and in the record books will forever be felt and his legacy will live on through Pletcher and others. The last 12 years have been real hard on the guy. His son was his best friend as well, and had that accident not occurred, his son would be where Todd is. Jeff was one of the best young horsemen who ever graced this earth. Lukas has lived the last 12 years watching this once brilliant guy, his son, go through hell in a reduced state. Hes lost his family, everything, and every day D Wayne must rise and think what if???? Tabsco cat hadnt got loose. AT this stage in his 70's D Wayne would re retired, with jeff running the show while he was an agent. For whatever sins D Wayne committed, hes paid the price, and then some. But I guess because some jock(whose work ethic and private life he questioned, who later DIED OVER DRUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) was spoken about by him, he should be hated instead of revered as what he is, a brilliant trainer who holds the records. 27 champions, good luck seeing that in our lifetime!!!!
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Old 06-06-2006, 04:52 PM
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im well aware of his past and his accomplishments but brilliant he is no longer and thats pretty evident. how much money has he flushed away for his owners down the toilet the last 5 years? its not exactly what he said but the timing of it about antley more than anything disgusts me, his personal agenda clearly was laid out then. tell me just what purpose did it serve running TCAS in the derby or his stablemate in the belmont that year, god forbid if d wayne is outta the spotlight for 5 seconds, to him being in the spotlight is more than worth running 1 into the ground
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Old 06-06-2006, 04:52 PM
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yeah, i had kind of forgot about jeff........ that situation is a tough as it gets.
oracle, can he function on his own???
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Old 06-06-2006, 04:59 PM
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yeah, i had kind of forgot about jeff........ that situation is a tough as it gets.
oracle, can he function on his own???
I don't know Mr Lukas well, only enough to say hello to. When i was younger I botherd Jeff with questions up here at saratoga and he always answered them. This was a brilliant handsome guy with work ethic of his dad.
I always ask him about Jeff when I see him, which isnt often. His horse was in teh next stall to WOnder lady in the Oaks and i asked about Jeff. He said hes frustarted and its hard. In other words hes just smart enough to know how smart he was and what kind of life he had. he cant train or function well enough to work. Anyone who ever knew the guy will tear up when they hear that. No matter how bad any of you think you ever have it, you oughta think about Jeff and consider yourselves lucky.
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Old 06-07-2006, 05:28 PM
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Whatever, the guy reinvented training as we know it, shipping to all spots, etc.
Henning, Bradshaw, Barnett, Maker, McLaughlin, Stewart, and Pletcher all went to D Wayne U.
I don't think it's a positive that he 'reinvented training'. Whittingham, Stephens, Luro, et. al. trained horses they knew and understood, not 'units' in one of several stables around the country. Lukas was best as a scout and a manager - pick out the athletes and smooze the owners, figure out the line-up. His assistants trained the horses.
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Old 06-07-2006, 05:34 PM
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I don't think it's a positive that he 'reinvented training'. Whittingham, Stephens, Luro, et. al. trained horses they knew and understood, not 'units' in one of several stables around the country. Lukas was best as a scout and a manager - pick out the athletes and smooze the owners, figure out the line-up. His assistants trained the horses.
Funny, they must not feel that way. I know Pletcher and McLaughlin use a white bridle as a tribute to the old boss.
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