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Cannon can answer this better, but my experience has been when our horses were on anti-biotics they barely galloped, let alone worked or run. It seems like it was closer to a 30 day time line before racing again vs 10 days. |
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![]() Never had one on antibiotics run back sooner than 3 weeks.
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![]() I think we've got the proverbial "smoke blown up our arse" by the manager, then.
Won't be the first time and I'm sure it won't be the last - unfortunately..... |
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![]() It all depends on what kind of infection and the severity of the infection. Some horses we've had can have a minor infection that can be treated with mild antibiotics and some you can scope and have a lot of mucus and they require stronger treatment protocol. Sometimes you can have a horse that has a minor, undectected infection that has no symptoms but runs poorly and sometimes these type of infection will cause a horse to bled. It all depends of what kind of infection, type of antibiotics and the horse. Some need more time than others.
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Are there antibiotics that would clear within a few days if the horse was only treated for a day or two? |
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First of all most antibiotics take more than a few days to work. More than likely they are treating this horse with an antibiotic called baytril which can be given 5-7 days. Then yes of course you would want the horse to have some time after that for the horse to build up their immune system. It is all up to what the trainer and owner feel is the best for the horse. When we run a horse we usually scope them two works before they run to make sure they are clean and sometimes it can be as simple as a cycle of antibiotics and they are fine for the race.
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1) The "lag" your seeing is more a need to recover from the illness itself and not necessarily the antibiotic. Like any human who has pneumonia for example ....in order to get back in the gym or to run the distance you would normally work out at.....there is a period of rehabilitation from the weakness of the illness but not induced by the treatment of say a week of Levaquin. 2) Many times physicians stop antibiotics started in humans after a couple days when a) the suspected infection is more likely viral by clinical acumen as a couple days pass b) the drugs seem like overkill for the illness which has improved more likely having run it's course c) Very few antibiotic courses are that short(1-2 days) that treat to cure an infection in humans. Exceptions would be things like high dose flagyl for vaginal trichomonas which is given as a single dose (sorry for thos eating as they read this) or perioperative antibiotics given as prophalaxis for procedures. It is more likely the horse didn't have an indication in the first place for antimicrobial care so having stopped them in a short period should do no harm because it didn't really help in the first place. The poor performance one sees is more likely due to a setback in aerobic performance with the illness. Just the human perspective for what it is worth!! |
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But like you said, I am under the impression Baytril is a last resort anitbiotic, that it is classified so to say as a super antibiotic, so regular use of Baytril could render it ineffective when really needed. I rarely use Baytril and have tried to caution others that use it regularly that when they need it might not work. Also doesn't sound good to use antibiotics for a few days, just to me would render use of antibiotics when needed fairly ineffective. Clavamox is an excellent broad spectrum fairly powerful antibiotic, don't know if that can be used on horses. As far as I know antibiotics START to clear the system around 48 hours but it takes up to 5 to 7 days to completely be out of the system. Don't know anything about how it would compromise a test, but I'm sure it could. |
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It just seems I've been told, or read somewhere, that it takes "x" days for an antibiotic to clear a horses system to avoid a positive test. |
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Seems like maybe they just dosed the horse arbitrarily and then took it off to meet a 7 day withdrawal time on whatever medication they gave it.
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