PGIACO: Marina Market today..

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

DRF shows the horse as "previously trained by Gullo Gary P." prior to his race on March 20th.

The horse was claimed as you say but was trained by Gullo before switching to Sciacca for the March race. The horse won that day running a lifetime best, but has tailed off dramatically since, picking up a few checks while not coming close the the winner's circle.

Accept on faith that I know the situation pretty well. Gullo is listed from when Gary was sitting out Dec-Mar. Most of Gary's horses were with Gullo during that period.

[cmorioles]

Gotcha. Sitting out? Too funny Steve, you should be a politician.

[pgiaco]

Thanks Steve. Obviously he's a better horse on the inner, but he's doing real well now and if he can somehow shake loose early.....
You have the sequence right. Claimed from Albertrani last fall at Belmont (as listed in DRF) he was with Gary Gullo during Round Boy's suspension. And yes he's earned about 110k since the claim.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by pgiaco

Thanks Steve. Obviously he's a better horse on the inner, but he's doing real well now and if he can somehow shake loose early.....
You have the sequence right. Claimed from Albertrani last fall at Belmont (as listed in DRF) he was with Gary Gullo during Round Boy's suspension. And yes he's earned about 110k since the claim.

What is the annual upkeep on a horse in New York? The horse has earned 110k, I'm curious after upkeep, jock and trainer fees, vet bills, etc, what the profit is on a successful claim like this one.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

What is the annual upkeep on a horse in New York? The horse has earned 110k, I'm curious after upkeep, jock and trainer fees, vet bills, etc, what the profit is on a successful claim like this one.

My guesses on 100% ownership

$100 per day training
$750 per month in vet
$100 per month blacksmith
$50 per month grooming
$50 per month (entries, pony to post)
$75 per month insurance

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Scav

My guesses on 100% ownership

$100 per day training
$750 per month in vet
$100 per month blacksmith
$50 per month grooming
$50 per month (entries, pony to post)
$75 per month insurance

I assume that Trainer and Jock each get 10% of that $110K

[Scav]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I assume that Trainer and Jock each get 10% of that $110K

Yeah, that isn't figured into the number you see in the form

[phystech]

Originally Posted by Scav

My guesses on 100% ownership

$100 per day training
$750 per month in vet
$100 per month blacksmith
$50 per month grooming
$50 per month (entries, pony to post)
$75 per month insurance

OUCH!!!!

When I see numbers like that, I realize how lucky I am to have the trainer and vet I have in MD.

If my vet bill is higher than $150 month, it's a bad month and there's something dreadfully wrong with the horse.

My training bill day rate is a little more than half that posted.

Insurance is $180 a year - liability insurance only, no mortality.

Gate fees are typically $20 per race.

And, I only pay 10% trainer comm on a top three finish money, not on every dime earned.

But then again, I don't run for the larger NY purses either.......but I still have a good chance of turning a profit if we manage our horse right and put him/her in the right spots.

[Kasept]

The day rate there is high. $75 a day more typical...