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Old 10-21-2008, 11:06 PM
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POLY over DIRT anytime.

FAIR RACING over BIASED RACING.

The ironic thing about this year's BC is that any BIAS will be on the (speed favoring) TURF. Now, ThAT's (long overdue) PROGRESS.
What's your take on the Euro jockey's?
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Old 10-22-2008, 05:38 AM
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i'd say the mud/slop and soggy turf.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:31 AM
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The upcoming results will punch a hole in any foolishness saying good horses run on anything. I cannot wait to see some of these world beaters get smoked exclusively because of the surface.

I like what Reed Baker said. If you had a horse that had won 10 million on the dirt and you entered him in the Breeders Cup Turf, most people would think you are out of your mind. Thats essentially what all of these people shipping into California are doing. You take a shot because the money is so good, but it will be a day of upside down results. Once again the industry has made themselves look foolish, they cannot control themselves. Especially in California

I will standback and watch a day of false champions run on fake dirt. Its a true disgrace and I hope the Euros Sweep the Cushion Card, and I dont doubt they do exactly that

I will not make one wager
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Slop.
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The upcoming results will punch a hole in any foolishness saying good horses run on anything. I cannot wait to see some of these world beaters get smoked exclusively because of the surface.

I like what Reed Baker said. If you had a horse that had won 10 million on the dirt and you entered him in the Breeders Cup Turf, most people would think you are out of your mind. Thats essentially what all of these people shipping into California are doing. You take a shot because the money is so good, but it will be a day of upside down results. Once again the industry has made themselves look foolish, they cannot control themselves. Especially in California

I will standback and watch a day of false champions run on fake dirt. Its a true disgrace and I hope the Euros Sweep the Cushion Card, and I dont doubt they do exactly that

I will not make one wager
I hope that the Euro's sweep the card as well. But that doesn't have any impact on the quality of the Champion. The Duke, HTN and RP in the Classic are all proven G1 winners against higher class and better quality stock then the US has to offer. How would they be considered a false champion.
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Synthetic over slop any day. Much fairer to the horses
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synthetic. sloppy main tracks account for about 90% of my worst handicapping days ever (and state bred stakes days account for about 9% of the rest).
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The upcoming results will punch a hole in any foolishness saying good horses run on anything. I cannot wait to see some of these world beaters get smoked exclusively because of the surface.

I like what Reed Baker said. If you had a horse that had won 10 million on the dirt and you entered him in the Breeders Cup Turf, most people would think you are out of your mind. Thats essentially what all of these people shipping into California are doing. You take a shot because the money is so good, but it will be a day of upside down results. Once again the industry has made themselves look foolish, they cannot control themselves. Especially in California

I will standback and watch a day of false champions run on fake dirt. Its a true disgrace and I hope the Euros Sweep the Cushion Card, and I dont doubt they do exactly that

I will not make one wager
i would agree with his take on that.
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i'd still rather have mud/slop and soggy turf.
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i'd still rather have mud/slop and soggy turf.
How about the Dee Tee runners?
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Poly, Concrete, Broken Glass, Horses Rule!!!!!!!!!!!
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How about the Dee Tee runners?
whatever chuck thinks is best for our girls. i play very little on our race days.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:37 PM
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i'd say the mud/slop and soggy turf.
me too. most turfers seem to relish only a certain kind of ground, so if they like it hard and firm, and it comes up soft, you can start narrowing down the field with confidence.
as for betting on poly with confidence....not so much.
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