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08-23-2006, 07:07 PM
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need advice re praying in school
i live (red) neck deep in the bible belt. my kids went back to school on monday, and the new principal at the high school brought in a gospel group monday morning, the first hour of school was spent in the auditorium while they sang gospel songs...and then had a prayer. tuesday and wednesday, a student led prayer over the intercom after the pledge....
couple questions...one, isn't this unconstitutional???? last i saw it was. now, i don't want to get into a debate of whether prayer should or shouldn't be allowed. i'm ticked that my kid is going to school at a place where the supreme court ruling is being ignored. or should i be? am i wrong? i called and left a message about this yesterday am at the school, and today they had another prayer, which means my call was basically ignored. if i want to pursue this, who do i call? state board of ed? or do i just ignore it, like other things i don't agree with there?? i don't want to get too public about it...i don't want my kids getting grief about it.
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08-23-2006, 07:08 PM
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just to clarify...
if prayer was ruled constitutional tomorrow, i wouldn't care. it's purely about the legality of the situation. i'm big on following laws....er, except for speed limits.
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Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. Abraham Lincoln
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08-23-2006, 07:59 PM
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08-23-2006, 08:14 PM
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A- ACLU B- Move If you go with option A...Prepare yourself and family for a world of grief and ****e!!! Let it go...JMHO
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08-23-2006, 08:41 PM
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These are tough situations...you have every right to complain to the Local Board of Education, The State Board of Education or seek help from ACLU or other legal groups that deal in Constitutional issues. Of course if you do, as others have said, be prepared for a lot of grief and, perhaps more importantly, be prepared for your family to be attacked. The question you have to answer is how important is this to you? If you feel strongly...well, how strongly? You also have to discuss it with your family...they need to be prepared and in agreement or you'll have a terrible time internally as well. I had a similar situation recently...do what I thought was right or not...I stood on principle...lost my job, my wife, and losing my farm, denied unemployment and no income coming in, job interviews have been rare and unproductive...every action brings a reaction, be sure you are prepared for what may come!
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08-23-2006, 08:52 PM
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08-23-2006, 08:53 PM
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08-23-2006, 09:01 PM
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08-23-2006, 09:11 PM
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Last edited by pgardn : 08-23-2006 at 09:14 PM.
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08-23-2006, 09:14 PM
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I'd say dont go there, and just let it be.
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08-24-2006, 05:51 AM
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You even said yourself that you don't always obeys laws that you don't like such as speed-limits. Sure it is important that we follow laws in general because if nobody followed laws there would be chaos. If people ignored traffic signals, there would be a ton of traffic accidents. But if it's 2:00am and you are the only car on the road and you are stopped at a red-light, and you can see clearly see in every direction that the road is empty, I don't think you need to wait for the light to turn green. Most laws are a mean to an end. They aren't an end in themselves. Last edited by Rupert Pupkin : 08-24-2006 at 06:18 AM.
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08-24-2006, 09:39 AM
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A- Keep your mouth shut B- Ruin your children's lives C- Pull them out of the school
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08-24-2006, 10:01 AM
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I think the main consideration here has to be how do the kids feel? If it doesn't bother them then it would be an issue purely based on principle and perhaps not worth the problems it would cause. If they appear negatively effected by it...that's a different story! In any event, be sure the entire family is aware of the potential consequences and is in agreement before proceeding! This is indeed a difficult decision!!
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08-24-2006, 10:29 AM
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LOL, don't get crazy calling in the ACLU...I'd just see if I could arrange a private meeting with the head of the board of education...no need for Mr. Sharpton, actually if Sharpton is a Reverend wouldn't it be a conflict of interest for him? Hmm, that's a quagmire.
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08-24-2006, 05:11 PM
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i probably will let it go for now. it it bothers me that it's happening, but i do know it would open a tremendously huge can of worms. and of course my kids would be the one to get the grief, not me--so much. thanks to everyone for their comments, i appreciate you chiming in. and rupe, most cities don't require you to sit at a red light later at night due to carjacking concerns...most places set them to go to flashing lights at night. i just happen to get a bit burned when people try to pull a majority rules, so we're right thing..which is what this is, the majority doesn't rule, the constitution is supposed to. it's a pet peeve of mine! thanks again everyone.
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Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. Abraham Lincoln
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08-24-2006, 06:56 PM
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As a teacher, I had parent call me stupid 6 times in a row on the phone and then hang up on me because her daughter did not make an A. I never ever took it out on her kid though, its not her fault. She did not choose her mom. And she was a really good kid. But even if she was not, I would feel horrible holding a grudge because of her mom.
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08-24-2006, 07:45 PM
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... put an end to all government owned and operated schools ... let parents keep their own money ... and use it to send their children to schools of their choice ... religious ... nonreligious ... or otherwise. Yup ... it's called Freedom.
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08-24-2006, 08:07 PM
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Libertarians unite. Right.
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08-24-2006, 08:17 PM
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... I don't like the word "libertarian" ... a word concocted to distinguish real freedom lovers from leftists who co-opted the word "liberal" ... ... but since leftists spurned the "liberal" designation ... I've gladly reclaimed it ... please refer to my political beliefs as liberal.
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